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Old 12-01-2007, 02:58 PM
amulet amulet is offline
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Default Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair

you fold preflop.

yes you bet the river, he showed no strength on the turn when the K hit and you bet, why would you not value bet the river?
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair

3 bet the flop
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair

i'm assuming you coldcalled the flop so you could raise the turn? that is okay sometimes, but usually you should just 3-bet there.

river is actually closer than people make it out to be. your kicker doesn't play anymore so the real question is could this guy have anything other than an ace here? i think its very likely he has QQ/JJ. would he call the river with those hands? the other portions of the time i think you are chopping a lot and occasionally going to be losing to AQ/AJ more than a frequent amount of time actually.
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair

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i'm assuming you coldcalled the flop so you could raise the turn? that is okay sometimes, but usually you should just 3-bet there.

river is actually closer than people make it out to be. your kicker doesn't play anymore so the real question is could this guy have anything other than an ace here? i think its very likely he has QQ/JJ. would he call the river with those hands? the other portions of the time i think you are chopping a lot and occasionally going to be losing to AQ/AJ more than a frequent amount of time actually.

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chris,

How does he raise the flop with AJ, AQ and then check the turn with it?

Ok yeah, IT HAPPENS sometimes, but not wayy way too often.

As for him paying off with JJ, QQ, that happens pretty often. Sure not all the time, but often enough
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Old 12-02-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair

I would just 3 bet the flop bc most of sb's hand's aren't donking 4th street so u can't raise both players, and if you raise 4th when mp leads then you KO all of sbs hands that he is correct to fold.

river is a bet honestly. mp shouldn't have an ace after he checks that flop. u need to give him the option to pay you off with QQ, JJ. Remember: he can't call if you don't bet
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