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#11
11-19-2007, 10:51 PM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
Pfap,
Here's a real downer... One night recently, OTP dealers on swing shift end up eventually getting picked up to deal games... well, floor gets the order wrong and picks up a dealer with a better number and when she finds out that she was picked up incorrectly before some other dealer with a worse number, she claims the "D" word... Discrimination... even though it was just a screw up. Well, after the room manager found out and so did the ACM, you can imagine the result... no more OTP's on ANY shift (I'm on days), and no more playing even off the clock in our room because of this action. boooooooo!!!! Needless to say, grave is taking a big hit on this and games are a bit slower to start on days... and tips are down slightly since there were several players that were always OTP until they got forced in. 
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#12
11-19-2007, 10:59 PM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
understand that while I would like to see it not happen, showing your cards to others who have already folded is so common that few people even consider it a violation of the rules. So you confused this dealer by objecting to what is commonly accepted practice. Of course he should not have argued with you or given you grief.
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#13
11-19-2007, 11:12 PM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
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Many of the dealers at Canterbury Park in MN also play, and I dont really see any problems with it. I have heard that some of the dealer choose not to play there only because they don't want to mix it up with players who 'might' be tipping them down the road. Case in point from OP. [/ QUOTE ] Though for a long time i wouldn't play where I worked, I do now do so occassionally, often times as a favor to the room and the dealers in trying to get a game going or keep it going. That being said I generally find the regulars respond positively to my playing (and no its not cause i'm dumping tons of money. I win a little and lose a little) I think they may tip me a little more now after playing with me, as though its a bond of friendship.
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#14
11-19-2007, 11:17 PM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
I was surprised when I was in Vegas this summer and the girl sitting to my right got up, and then sat down in the dealing chair 5 minutes later. I would love to play where I deal, but it's clearly listed as a no-no by the provincial gaming commission.
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#15
11-19-2007, 11:27 PM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
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Some of the worst-behaved players I've seen are dealers. [/ QUOTE ] In my area, the two absolutely worst behaved players are dealers. One of them is terribly abusive to the dealers, but is very honest as a player and dealer. He is also smart enough to behave absolutely excellently as a dealer. The other is an angle-shooting, cheat anyway he can, abusive player. He is also a cheating dealer, doing whatever he can get away with to favor a very few players, mainly some relatives.
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#16
11-19-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
It goes so far at CP that dealers have been disciplined with write-ups and possibly time-off for violating the rules while they play. The cell phone rule comes to mind. Don't remember seeing dealers sweat since it become more strongly enforced either.
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#17
11-19-2007, 11:54 PM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
One of my players told me he saw a table full of dealers, in uniform, at circus circus playing. They were just playing for the bad beat, all calling pre-flop then checking everything down. Assuming this is true, I'm shocked that a dealer would do this to his/her players and that the house would allow it.
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#20
11-20-2007, 02:20 AM
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Re: Playing at the same place you deal.
Most respectable cardrooms have policies that their employees must well behaved in any other cardroom. I've actually seen a couple of dealers get punished by having to work tournaments for misbehaving in other casinos. I believe the dealers should be able to act however they want if you ask me, it will only hurt their tokes if they act poorly. However, any poker player who knows the rules should not violate them. And any decent dealer understands the basic etiquette and rules of poker. He was out of line, and you should call him on it since you know that he knows very clearly that he is out of line.
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