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Old 11-11-2007, 09:12 PM
NotFadeAway NotFadeAway is offline
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Default Short stack question: QJ on button; $10 45 player

Just checking to make sure this short stack shove is okay.

Blinds are 100/200. Hero has QJ offsuit.
UTG 1580
UTG + 1 2365
MP1 2400
CO 8350
Hero 1620
SB 5540
BB 2290

It was folded to me and I shoved my QJ. Is this a standard shove, or is my hand too weak to shove here?
Thanks for any replies.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:29 PM
yNnOs yNnOs is offline
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Default Re: Short stack question: QJ on button; $10 45 player

Standard. Obv not folding this. If you make it 600, you already have 37% of your stack in. I think I read this in the forums, but if you're going to raise and its going to take up over 35% of your stack, might as well shove.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:34 PM
NotFadeAway NotFadeAway is offline
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Default Re: Short stack question: QJ on button; $10 45 player

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Standard. Obv not folding this. If you make it 600, you already have 37% of your stack in. I think I read this in the forums, but if you're going to raise and its going to take up over 35% of your stack, might as well shove.

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Thanks for the reply. That's pretty much what I was thinking, but I just wanted to double check here. This part of my game is something I'm trying to work on, so I appreciate any help.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Short stack question: QJ on button; $10 45 player

I don't think you be too far wrong to shove any Q in this situation. I'm definitely shoving any suited Q and probably Q6o and up here.
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Old 11-11-2007, 10:58 PM
yNnOs yNnOs is offline
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Default Re: Short stack question: QJ on button; $10 45 player

I think how thin we're pushing here has more to do with the calling range of SB and BB; which we've been given no reads. Against a typical tight range, and the fact that their stacks aren't small enough for desperation calls, I have to agree with Peanut. If that's the case, we can prob get away with a whole lot worse than Q6o.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: Short stack question: QJ on button; $10 45 player

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I think how thin we're pushing here has more to do with the calling range of SB and BB; which we've been given no reads. Against a typical tight range, and the fact that their stacks aren't small enough for desperation calls, I have to agree with Peanut. If that's the case, we can prob get away with a whole lot worse than Q6o.

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Sorry about that lack of information. I had no reads at this point.
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