Overpair Sandwich

[ruapho]

I've posted reads, both players are tight. From what i've seen on this limit, BB thinks of me as player with two holecards. If he has reads on me it will be like 14/8/4.

My first intention on this flop was to check-raise. But...you see...
My main Question is on how to play here with QQ,KK,AA.

edit: Samplesize is about 130 reads.

[OziBattler]

given reads, i dont think c/r is good

[ruapho]

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our outs are not clean.

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Outs ? Gutshot + two Jacks ? Even if all 6 outs are clean, this would be a fold.
And c/r is a good way of protecting and isolating on this drawy board, isn't it ?

[fretelöo]

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our outs are not clean.

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Outs ? Gutshot + two Jacks ? Even if all 6 outs are clean, this would be a fold.

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No, because if your GS hits, you'll be able to collect extra bets.

[BigBadBabar]

lol buzz you say bet the flop in your post but then in my post it's wrong? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Buzz-cp]

i suggested checking the flop too. but you didn't answer my question is the point. you say it emphatically like we are always ahead. We are always getting raised by a better hand you see.

[BigBadBabar]

i want to bet and see what happens, not check and see what happens. i think we get better info if we bet and it's 2 back to us, than if we check and it's two back to us. i'm not saying we're always ahead at all.

[Man of Means]

I'm not sure what the right answer is, but here is what I am thinking

On this board, JJ is better than QQ because it gives you the gutshot draw, so you have 4-6 outs. Agreed BB probably has you beat but can you see the turn and draw profitably? i.e. does button possibly have two [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]s (are 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] good)?

Black QQ against these tighties, I'd donk the flop and fold if it gets 3bet, since you then have 1-2 outs.

With KK I'd have to go ballistic on the flop, and get to showdown cheap/fold if things blow up on the turn with both opponents still in.

AA, play fast on the flop & it is probably fated to showdown but there may be an inflection point later on where it's obvious you're dead.

[Second Toughest]

Think you should have lead the flop. As you didn't it's difficult to gage what you now face. It looks like you're beat, but it could be stealing gone wrong! I'd call.

[marchron]

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edit: Samplesize is about 130 reads.

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Damn, that's a lotta reads.