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Old 11-05-2007, 06:20 PM
Aleator22 Aleator22 is offline
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Default What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

I am new to the forums and new to 6-max cash games. I have played a lot of SNGs (9 handed, 6 handed, and heads up) and the occasional 9 handed cash game in the past couple of years. I have Poker Tracker and recently added PAHUD in order to gain a better feel of my oppenents while multi-tabling.
My main question right now is what kind of range my VPIP and PFR should be for 6-max cash games at the 100NL level. I have played 21/12 over my first thousand hands which I feel is probably a little too low. Thanks for the help.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:22 PM
Cue-Ball 66 Cue-Ball 66 is offline
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

You have to play exactly 22/18. If you're playing 23/17 you're cold-calling wayyy too much.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

21/12 is bad. You are probaly limping and cold-calling way too many hands.

There is no magic formulla, but your VPIP and PFR should be closer connected.

I play around 20/17 myself, others like to play 25/20, and nits like to play 14/11.

It is all player/table dependent. Stop limping and start raising more hands in late position and see where it gets you.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

There is no "perfect" style. Just try to adapt to the table and different villains, find they're leaks/weaknesses and exploit them. That said, I'm playing an average style of 23/20 which comes from playing 18/16 on one table and 26/22 on another.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

Start low and nitty - 14/12 or somthing and work your way up to 30/25. Throttle it back and find somthing that works for you. 19/17 to 25/20 seems to be generally accepted.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

I'm like 18/16 and so far it's working pretty well. That's an average of my early and late position stats -- utg and utg+1 I'm much tighter. Just never open limp and cut down your cold calling range.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

Thanks for the recommendations so far guys. I'll try to cut down on the limping and see how that works.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

For some of you 25/21 or 20/20 types out there...can you describe your preflop playing style in terms of what your playing, what your raising, etc etc.

I saw someone post something similar to this awhile back when a LAG player asked "show me how to be a nit preflop".

I have no clue how aggro one would need to be to get to 20 preflop. Highest I've ever been is like 13. Do u guys 3bet and 4bet like crazy?
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

i average out at about 21/17, which i find a pretty good number. i think a reasonable range of VPIP/PFR is about 18/15-27/22, although higher and lower can be profitable too
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: What range of VPIP and PFR should I be playing at 100NL 6-max?

given OP's story & stats i would shoot for ~16/15 and drop one level..
after reading a ton of 2p2 material u will naturally rise the numbers.
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