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Old 09-04-2007, 11:13 PM
macgyverlol macgyverlol is offline
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Default QQ on turn facing odd bet

Villain is ship it_ducy, a multitabling TAG with 16/11, same as mine. This turn raise is so uncharacteristic of him, but I dont know if he knows that I know that.

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SB: $49.50
BB: $50.45
UTG: $120.20
Hero (MP): $59.90
CO: $87.10
BTN: $135.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $1.75, SB folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($5.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, BTN calls $4.00, BB folds

Turn: ($13.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $40.50</font>

Pot Size: $63.00
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:17 PM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

gotta fold...I doubt he plays a FD like this.

check the flop.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:19 PM
Danielmk Danielmk is offline
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

It depends of his AF. If he is some kind of 16/11/5 and plays aggresivly his draws you can consider calling. But there is not much you can beat other than a FD.
He may have called you with QT on the flop and raised on the turn to protect himself from a 3rd flush card on the river.
Other hands that he may hold are kq kj or a set(not too probable) so is an easy fold.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:33 AM
wooziephantom wooziephantom is offline
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

Check the flop here is good... Call on the turn and re-evaluate river.. Pot control is key with a hand like this.. Playing a flushdraw like this doesn't make any sense, and if he does u'll win his money sooner or later so wait for a better spot.. What happened?
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:38 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

if he's very aggro at all I call. Pretty sick call dude.

At the time I doubt I'd peice it together but it makes sense to call. I think he's most likely to have something like 9Tcc and he will very very rarely have 55. Pretty opponent specific but I definitely see justification in bet/calling here with QQ/AJ/AK/etc.

holla.
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:04 AM
macgyverlol macgyverlol is offline
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

I folded to turn bet. Surprised you're all saying check flop. Is that bet really spew?
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:41 AM
Philvater Philvater is offline
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

In my Opinion Flop bet is ok because you were the PF Aggressor and have got FE. But after he's called I would play C/F or maybee C/C on Turn and River. I think his All-In was a Protection against a straight Draw. So Maybe he has got Two Pair, a Set or hit a straight an doesnt want somebody to get a straight.
Do you accord with my evaluation?
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

The flop bet is marginal considering there are 2 opponants but I definately shut down on the turn now unless you have some super read, against a 16/11 guy this is a easy fold for me
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

Check behind the flop, no worse hand can really call you on that board with the K showing and you are multiway. I fold the turn.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:08 AM
Sharagoz Sharagoz is offline
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Default Re: QQ on turn facing odd bet

Fold.
Unless you got a good read you cant call here. KJ, Q10, 55 are just too likely the way this went down. You've shown strength on 3 streets in a row, there's very little chance he's bluffing or semi-bluffing. A "multi tabling TAG" will rarely make that move.

I agree with checking the flop. You're either a small favourite or a big underdog if somebody calls.
Definatly check the turn after you bet the flop and got called. You might give a free card by checking the flop or turn, but you just have to do it to control the pot size. This is not a big pot hand.
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