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Old 07-15-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default NL50 Standard AA fold?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $73.22
BB: $58.96
Hero (UTG): $73.89
CO: $25.00
BTN: $52.95

Reads: <font color="blue">Standard flop fold? The initial flop caller is a station and the raiser seems tight 17/8/2 over 50 hands. I am thinking he would have 3bet AK PF and so I beat only weaker Ks, KQ,KJ maybe but would they even raise here?</font>

CO posts $0.75
Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, CO calls $2.25, BTN calls $2.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($9) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, CO calls $6.00, <font color="red">BTN raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds

Pot Size: $45.00
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Old 07-15-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

Get it in. 44/33 are obv part of his range here, but AK/KQ make up a much larger part. A lot of 17/8 players don't really 3bet without AA/KK, so I wouldn't make too much of that without a better read. You have 50% equity vs. 33/44/AK and 65% if he can have KQ here too.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

Yeah, this looks like a pretty standard fold given the read on the button and how dry this board is.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

Whether or not he has AK makes all the difference here and I'm still not convinced that's possible enough. I think you have to weight the other hands in the range a lot more, and I think it's a pretty easy fold.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

I think folding here is way too weak. I shove.
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

This is hugely dependent on your image.

Personally I can't ever imagine folding this. Most players are bad, don't understand the gap concept, and call with any hand they would have raised first in with from the same position. Can't villain have KQ here? And be raising for value on the flop? A 8 PFR is pretty low. Are we sure he would 3b AK pre? A lot of players want to see first if they hit TPTK or not.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

I call this 100% of the time, I am not particularly happy about it but you can't fold here.
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

I push. Those stats are only over 50 hands and they aren't quite nitty enough for me to be laying down AA here.

If he has a set, so be it.
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

he played it like a set, I'd fold
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Old 07-15-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: NL50 Standard AA fold?

its a dry board here to.
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