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#31
11-27-2007, 01:03 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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b/f > c/f >> c/c >> b/c against this opponent [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. You're getting owned hardcore if you c/c frequently in this spot. 
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#32
11-27-2007, 01:08 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
b/f
dont expect to be called much
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#35
11-27-2007, 01:32 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
The more I think about it, the more I hate bet-folding this hand. Seriously, he's so rarely calling with worse here unless he's terrible.
Even if we were double barrel bluffing, the As is a legitimate part of our range and even if TJ+ came this far, he's probably not calling the river. CF is the only thing that makes sense to me
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#36
11-27-2007, 01:35 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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The more I think about it, the more I hate bet-folding this hand. Seriously, he's so rarely calling with worse here unless he's terrible. Even if we were double barrel bluffing, the As is a legitimate part of our range and even if TJ+ came this far, he's probably not calling the river. CF is the only thing that makes sense to me [/ QUOTE ] u realize any good villain is shoving on you if u check this river
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#37
11-27-2007, 01:35 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] value bet or c/c, i'm not folding [/ QUOTE ] what hands do i get value from, and youre not folding to a raise if we bet? or did you mean youre not c/fing [/ QUOTE ] obv. not b/c. I prefer b/f to c/c but even c/c is fine here because he has to have AJ/JJ/99/55 to have you beat on the river.
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#39
11-27-2007, 01:38 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] The more I think about it, the more I hate bet-folding this hand. Seriously, he's so rarely calling with worse here unless he's terrible. Even if we were double barrel bluffing, the As is a legitimate part of our range and even if TJ+ came this far, he's probably not calling the river. CF is the only thing that makes sense to me [/ QUOTE ] u realize any good villain is shoving on you if u check this river [/ QUOTE ] Can you name the hands worse than KK that you would bet this river with, and why you would do it? It'd be turning your hand into a bluff 100% of the time, so would that be the goal?
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#40
11-27-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: KK against thinking opponent
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] value bet or c/c, i'm not folding [/ QUOTE ] what hands do i get value from, and youre not folding to a raise if we bet? or did you mean youre not c/fing [/ QUOTE ] obv. not b/c. I prefer b/f to c/c but even c/c is fine here because he has to have AJ/JJ/99/55 to have you beat on the river. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think he gets this far with some spade draws?
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