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Old 09-03-2007, 11:53 PM
Praxising Praxising is offline
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Default Razz $1/2 - questionable raise..wimpy call?

Sometimes when I review a hand I wonder what the flock I was thinking raising. Would anyone else have raised 5th here? And then, I think I wimped out on the river by not raising. (Other criticisms also welcome.)

Razz ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (5.85 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.93 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (7.93 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

River - (9.93 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets

Total pot: (11.93 BB - $23.85)
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:10 AM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Default Re: Razz $1/2 - questionable raise..wimpy call?

When I'm really handreading well, sometimes I can put an opponent on a pair on fifth and put a raise in in a spot like this. Dead cards are certainly very favorable for him having paired.

I think a raise on the river is too thin.

Sixth is very close; you're either drawing dead or to five outs in 36 cards, and getting 9:1. If his range for his unpaired card is (2, 5, 6) you're dead 3/8 times, and should fold. If it's (2, 5, 6, 8) you're dead 1/4 times and drawing better 1/3 times, so it's a call.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Razz $1/2 - questionable raise..wimpy call?

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When I'm really handreading well, sometimes I can put an opponent on a pair on fifth and put a raise in in a spot like this. Dead cards are certainly very favorable for him having paired.

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Yeah, I'd like to claim I was insightful and incisive, but I just raised to see if she'd reraise here. If she did, I might have folded - but - I think this is a pretty loose raise, now I look at it.

I called on 6th because she just called on 5th. If this had gone one card the other way, I'd have taken a big loss because I set myself up with the raise. Or, I would have lost a nice hand, because I wouldn't have called 6th.

I think it sucks that there's so much gambling in gambling.
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