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#14
06-18-2007, 12:20 PM
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Re: He doesn\'t have it
Seems fine, even if villain has a T or an OP hero is repping AA-QQ pretty solid and puts villain in an impossible spot. Putting your opponents in bad spots is what we do.
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#16
06-18-2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: He doesn\'t have it
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[ QUOTE ] Dont like this at all w/o reads [/ QUOTE ] But he doesn't have a 6, and probably has a lot of trouble continuing without a T. If he's tight, he should fold a lot. My only realy worry is JJ. [/ QUOTE ] I'd just fold. I'd rather call than raise. I'd rather call if the board was two tone. I'd rather call if we were 125BB deep. These C/R top pair/mid pair on xxy types check the turn the vast majority of the time if they are called on the flop, so you can fire any turn you want. (1 large barrel on A turn, 2 incl smallish turn bet if turn bricks) I'm almost positive this is more +EV than raising the flop. What I'd be interested in is whether or not its more +EV if both the turn and river brick and you fire both streets. My hunch is that he calls turn a bit too much to make the turn bet +EV in isolation, but folds riv a huge % of the time, making the line +++EV given the now dead turn money. Anyway, he makes that raise for info with a T/mid pair so anything but a fold scares the sh*t out of him. If he's bluffing the flop your call is vv strong, so he should be done with the hand. If he has a 6 he'll lead the turn and you can muck, saving 210 or whatever.
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#19
06-18-2007, 05:40 PM
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Re: He doesn\'t have it
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Dont like this at all w/o reads [/ QUOTE ] But he doesn't have a 6, and probably has a lot of trouble continuing without a T. If he's tight, he should fold a lot. My only realy worry is JJ. [/ QUOTE ] I'd just fold. I'd rather call than raise. I'd rather call if the board was two tone. I'd rather call if we were 125BB deep. These C/R top pair/mid pair on xxy types check the turn the vast majority of the time if they are called on the flop, so you can fire any turn you want. (1 large barrel on A turn, 2 incl smallish turn bet if turn bricks) I'm almost positive this is more +EV than raising the flop. What I'd be interested in is whether or not its more +EV if both the turn and river brick and you fire both streets. My hunch is that he calls turn a bit too much to make the turn bet +EV in isolation, but folds riv a huge % of the time, making the line +++EV given the now dead turn money. Anyway, he makes that raise for info with a T/mid pair so anything but a fold scares the sh*t out of him. If he's bluffing the flop your call is vv strong, so he should be done with the hand. If he has a 6 he'll lead the turn and you can muck, saving 210 or whatever. [/ QUOTE ] I agree w/ you. I don't think firing only turn is +EV, but firing both is +EV. But in reality I think I would just fold the flop and be done w/ it, I'm so weak sometimes.
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#20
06-18-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: He doesn\'t have it
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I'd rather call than raise. I'd rather call if the board was two tone. I'd rather call if we were 125BB deep. These C/R top pair/mid pair on xxy types check the turn the vast majority of the time if they are called on the flop, so you can fire any turn you want. (1 large barrel on A turn, 2 incl smallish turn bet if turn bricks) I'm almost positive this is more +EV than raising the flop. What I'd be interested in is whether or not its more +EV if both the turn and river brick and you fire both streets. My hunch is that he calls turn a bit too much to make the turn bet +EV in isolation, but folds riv a huge % of the time, making the line +++EV given the now dead turn money. Anyway, he makes that raise for info with a T/mid pair so anything but a fold scares the sh*t out of him. If he's bluffing the flop your call is vv strong, so he should be done with the hand. If he has a 6 he'll lead the turn and you can muck, saving 210 or whatever. [/ QUOTE ] Good post, I agree w/ the call > raise sentiment. D
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