3 bet with 33?

[Crispy Bacon]

This a $26, 17k tilt turbo. villain is 44/33/4 after 20 hands.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $80/$160
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $2395
UTG+1: $2790
MP1: $1470
MP2: $4785
MP3: $1830
CO: $3765
Button: $7850
SB: $1599
Hero: $3870

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $400</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $240 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $400


Couldn't decide on best option at the time so just avoided the risk and folded. Calling seems out of the question since we'll be check/folding the flop mostly, is this a good spot for a push do you think?

[InVogue]

no to 3 bet. better places for that. you arent a big favorite vs most hands

[cobrakai111]

Only $240 more? I'm calling for set value all day if we're 20+ bb's deep.

I'm my opinion call&gt;&gt;&gt;fold&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;raise

[JammyDodga]

Can you expand on any reads you have on the villian? You say he's 44, is he calling re-raises pre-flop with trash or raise folding, whats he like on the flop? Does he bet/call with nothing?

[ZJ123]

3 bet and call a shove

[Crispy Bacon]

sorry no read on villain other than pt stats - been reading too much 2+2!
If he calls a push we're about 42% against his calling range and we must have around 10-20% FE so I don't think a push is too bad an option.

The fact that this is a turbo makes me inclined to take a flip now rather than waiting for a good hand we might not pick up soon enough and be forced to put it in with rags.

[DeuceSeven]

I'd need a good read not to 3 bet here. Most villains with half a clue are raising wide on the button. If you don't want to do that calling is fine, folding is the worst option.

[Sherman]

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3 bet and call a shove

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I think this is probably good here or just shoving (although it is an overbet).

Folding is quite bad here. Seriously we have a guy who is raising 33% of his hands! From that button that is like ATC.

[erc007]

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This a $26, 17k tilt turbo. villain is 44/33/4 after 20 hands.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $80/$160
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2395
UTG+1: $2790
MP1: $1470
MP2: $4785
MP3: $1830
CO: $3765
Button: $7850
SB: $1599
Hero: $3870

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $400</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $240 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $400


Couldn't decide on best option at the time so just avoided the risk and folded. Calling seems out of the question since we'll be check/folding the flop mostly, is this a good spot for a push do you think?

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I don't think i like 3-betting/calling or 3-betting/open-shoving any flop (although your stack size is good for this) if flatcalled pre. Both seem spewy with 20BBs. I think i call pre. Shoving pre is the worst option (including folding.)

[the alex]

Yeah, chances are he doesn't have a hand worth paying off a set, but the guy's AF is 4. I'm flatting every time.