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Old 09-19-2007, 02:33 PM
cjd cjd is offline
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Default Small pocket pair full house - any reason to fold this?

I am largely a breakeven player, making most of my profit from rakeback and bonuses. I multitable (usually 6-9 tables). It frustrates me that most of my profits are from bonus dollars and rakeback

I'll often play small pocket pairs against small raises - going with the attitude usually of set on flop or fold on flop.

I'm looking at the hand I lost the most on yesterday. I don't think I should have played it any differently, just that this is one of those big hands I am going to lose money on. Just wondering what everyone else's thoughts are.


Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($111.60)
BB ($49.62)
UTG ($37.75)
UTG+1 ($18.50)
MP1 ($71.45)
MP2 ($20.20)
CO ($17.27)
Button ($74.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.5</font>, UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $2.50, UTG calls $2.50.

Turn: ($14) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.5</font>, UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, UTG calls $6, Button calls $3.50.

River: ($33.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $19.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $26.75</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $7.25.

Final Pot: $87


UTG flips over pocket AA, for a larger full house. Hero loss of $37.75.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:37 PM
Casper05 Casper05 is offline
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Default Re: Small pocket pair full house - any reason to fold this?

preflop is good- you should be calling with all pocket pairs

flop- ok the donk bet is good, although I might c/r. It depends on the players involved. However, you only bet 50c into $5...you need to bet at least 3-4. Once BTN raises its ok to flat call to trap UTG in the hand.

turn- now that BTN took the initiative, you have to c/r here...again, your donk bet is wayyy too small. Build a pot so you can get all in vs AK/AQ type hands...and at this level even AT or worse.

River- you should have already been all in

No, you are never folding this.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Small pocket pair full house - any reason to fold this?

Also, PokerTracker/AceHud showed:

UTG - 340 hands / 19.71 VPIP / 12.94% PFR / 2.20aggr

Button - 216 hands / 44.91% VPIP / 12.96% PFR / 1.49aggr
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Small pocket pair full house - any reason to fold this?

Don't post results
Don't donk-min-bet flop (unless you're going to push all-in to a raise)
Don't min-donk AGAIN on the turn
And don't fold this to any opponent.

Post hands you're confused about - sets are teh nutz down here - not just big beats.
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