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#41
11-11-2007, 11:52 PM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
If there is any questions of ethics it should been in place before the hand. Whenever I play poker with people I’m chummy with they know I am going to play my best and try to win every pot I play vs them and I except they’d do the same vs me. I make sure the non-professionals I play with on a regular basis know I do this for a living and understand I am going to try to win their money. This does not me that I don’t like them at as a person, don’t consider them a friend etc. When I’m at work I’m at work to make money.
This only real reason this is a question is because you established a rapport that shouldn’t exist at the poker table imo. 
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#43
11-12-2007, 12:09 AM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
good rapport and positive relationships will always benefit you more than one pot. if the guy is a douche and you cannot concieve any future dealings with him, stack him, but if he is reasonably congenial and there is a future relationships with this person, its not worth it.
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#44
11-12-2007, 12:14 AM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
Jesus just shove and show him your hand. The guy's not playing poker he's trying to give you money. If you don't like this tell him after that you prefer to play hard and expect the same from him in the future.
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#45
11-12-2007, 12:25 AM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
the correct play is to give him back all his money and then get him to stake you in donkaments.
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#46
11-12-2007, 12:25 AM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
I do like the whole shove and show for karma's sake. But I think that this is basically an EV question, isnt it? I might not have any ethics, but I would just figure if keeping this guy as a "friend" is worth more than the money im about to win from him. Or you could let him figure it out for himself and then apologize and tell him this is how you play poker (offer him another drink? or something like that)
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#47
11-12-2007, 12:35 AM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
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consider this doesnt only happen when we have the nuts, it also happens when we are bluffing or have two pair and pair+oesd, so the guy is being really nice. [/ QUOTE ] exactly. i could've had a set of 4s and would've been just as giddy to put all the chips in, eager to crack his AA. NOW reenact the scene: just as i'm about to say, "i'm all-in," he shows me the 5... a lot of you aren't realizing how generous he's being. he's literally trying to let me save thousands of dollars.
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#48
11-12-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
i don't know if generosity is his motivation. a lot of live players pull this [censored] because they are variance-averse and have decided that they don't want to be greedy and are happy to win $X than possibly lose a pot of $X * 2, or whatever.
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#50
11-12-2007, 03:30 AM
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Re: weird situation. is there any ethics consideration here?
I like your style.
Recently, a noobie was having his first outing at a casino and was down to his last $30 at a low limit NL table. (I know this amount is trivial to most on this forum, but that's not the point). So I raise KT he calls blind folds, and flop is T high rainbow. I bet and tell him: "look I don't want to win your last chips, I have a T and I'll even show it to you", and show him my T. He returns the favor and shows his T as he calls [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Turn I check and he bets his last chips and I call, and his AT is good. You went one step further with your act of generosity. It's nice to know that there are people like you out there.
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