Stars 200NL: AK reraised pot vs. nit

The Don · #1 10-11-2007, 12:38 AM

Villian is resident Stars 200NL nit MRteddyKGB. Runs about 16/12/2, doesn't get it in without monsters etc...

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saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($201)
Hero ($209)
UTG ($334.80)
MP ($290.25)
Button ($207)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $22, MP calls $16.

Flop: ($45) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $25, Hero calls $25.

Turn: ($95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $55, hero?

Plan was to go for two streets of value (turn/river) vs. KK/QQ/JJ although I'd probably only get one but might as well fire turn and take a shot at two as I think he'll call turn.

Now that this happened I am clueless. There is only one combo of AA and I'm not sure if he's making the call with 77/22 because he typically folds to my 3bets (I never get out of line vs him). AK seems by far the most likely. What's your play?

pineapple888 · #2 10-11-2007, 12:46 AM

Call turn, check river, puke if he shoves.

ASPoker8 · #3 10-11-2007, 12:49 AM

call c/c river

Clayton · #4 10-11-2007, 12:56 AM

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Call turn, check river, fold if he shoves.

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fyp ^

he will use this exact line imo with any pocket pair that hit a set or not

however he will only fire river if he has a set. u are repping a good ace or KK, and he doesnt figure you will fold to a riverbet with either.

a simple solution is to not get into big pots with guys like Teddy oop. im more likely to flatcall oop here with AK, and reraise with something like 43s.

Nielsio · #5 10-11-2007, 01:17 AM

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call c/c river

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Jay Riall · #6 10-11-2007, 01:19 AM

I don't mind a call and c/f river either tbh

The Don · #7 10-11-2007, 01:25 AM

I paid off obv, he had 77 as expected. Solid advice about flatting AK oop vs mega nits... will have to work that into my game.

Clayton · #8 10-11-2007, 01:28 AM

those saying call, cc river, its such bad advice.

try to think about it in a longterm and understand why paying off is soooo bad versus a nit here. nits will check behind AQ, so now we're against a set or a pp that is bluffing.

now consider how often a nit will not show the goods in these spots, and consider how that factors into your metagame when you're making these dumb payoffs.

ofc u show "but if i fold, he will always bluff me here". BUT HE'S A NIT. he doesnt ever have enough hands in his range to make them into bluffs anyways. ppl then turn this into an excuse of "he's gotta NOT HAVE it eventually!". WRONGGGGG.

ASPoker8 · #9 10-11-2007, 01:34 AM

i dont have him as that nitty which is why i would c/c river

if hes a huge nit fold

scorer · #10 10-11-2007, 01:40 AM

brilliant post clayton, i agree 100 percent