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01-04-2007, 07:17 PM
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Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
Villian is erratic, very aggro player- 58/29/7 over 70 hands. I couldnt think of anything to do besides push even though i could definetly see him waking up with 78 or 83 here?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> Button ($35.50) SB ($113.50) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($156.15)</font> UTG ($101.95) <font color="#C00000">MP ($256.20)</font> Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks. Flop: ($3.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $56</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $183.15</font> 
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#2
01-04-2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
I push here too. I see top 2 a lot. See over pair a lot. I need villain to have shown that they are incompetent before I can confidently shovel this.
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#4
01-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
I just call the min raise, even though its weak i want to keep the pot small and maybe get to showdown cheaply. Not a hand i'm playing for 150BB stacks.
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#5
01-04-2007, 07:21 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
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I see top 2 a lot. See over pair never. [/ QUOTE ] his pfr is 30... i guess i would push too but it's really tough if he's never done anything like this...could be a fold.
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#6
01-04-2007, 07:25 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
hes definetly getting out of line post flop, i mean his aggro is 8 with a >50 vpip, thats tough to do.
but, i havent seen him do anything completely batshit crazy, yet.
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#7
01-04-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
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I just call the min raise, even though its weak i want to keep the pot small and maybe get to showdown cheaply. Not a hand i'm playing for 150BB stacks. [/ QUOTE ] 9Thh, or something of that nature pops up too much, imo, for me to just call i think?
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#8
01-04-2007, 07:29 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
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[ QUOTE ] I just call the min raise, even though its weak i want to keep the pot small and maybe get to showdown cheaply. Not a hand i'm playing for 150BB stacks. [/ QUOTE ] 9Thh, or something of that nature pops up too much, imo, for me to just call i think? [/ QUOTE ] If he does have 9T hearts he's even money with you. Your raise has no value there since he's not folding it.
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#9
01-04-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I just call the min raise, even though its weak i want to keep the pot small and maybe get to showdown cheaply. Not a hand i'm playing for 150BB stacks. [/ QUOTE ] 9Thh, or something of that nature pops up too much, imo, for me to just call i think? [/ QUOTE ] If he does have 9T hearts he's even money with you. Your raise has no value there since he's not folding it. [/ QUOTE ] his combo-draw range is huge 7xhh, 9hTx, 9To, 89, i mean, who can really put a player of this type on an accurate range. and if we're even money now, whats wrong with getting the money in now, especially if i could make a mistake later, in a gigantic pot?
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#10
01-04-2007, 07:53 PM
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Re: Bottom 2 on the flop, 180bb deep... pushit, pushit real good?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I just call the min raise, even though its weak i want to keep the pot small and maybe get to showdown cheaply. Not a hand i'm playing for 150BB stacks. [/ QUOTE ] 9Thh, or something of that nature pops up too much, imo, for me to just call i think? [/ QUOTE ] If he does have 9T hearts he's even money with you. Your raise has no value there since he's not folding it. [/ QUOTE ] his combo-draw range is huge 7xhh, 9hTx, 9To, 89, i mean, who can really put a player of this type on an accurate range. and if we're even money now, whats wrong with getting the money in now, especially if i could make a mistake later, in a gigantic pot? [/ QUOTE ] You're the one making the pot gigantic when you make your first 3bet. So what if he just calls your 3bet. Now you have pot around 70, you're out of position with bottom two against a player that isn't going to play straight forward and you don't wanna see over half the cards in the deck on the turn. What is your plan then?
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