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Old 03-17-2007, 07:06 AM
BadSeed BadSeed is offline
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Default Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

Hello everyone! I would like to encourage you talking about an important leak of many poker beginners (and especially me) - fit-or-fold postflop approach. Having studied my PT statistics, I found that if I don't cbet (which I maybe do too often, but this is another story), I tend folding to most flop bets when missed the board or hit the lower card (or have an inferior poket pair).
I feel that I am losing money playing this way, but I have no clear idea how to fix it. It could also be that playing too straightforward is not a problem on micro limits, but I surely want to improve my play... Grateful for any help!
P.S. I play NL 0.5-0.10 on Party. PT - 27/14/ 3.5/2/1.9.
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:13 AM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

This is a very general question and I expect this thread will be locked.
Your question is really 'how do I become a better postflop player?'.
Here's how:
1) Play a lot
2) Read and respond to threads
3) Read the archives
4) Review your game with pokertracker and post difficult/interesting hands.

And that's it.
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

Thanks for the response!
So, should I post a few hands of what I consider an early post-flop fold for the expert consideration? I was afraid many of experienced player will find them either too primitive or too boring.
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:42 AM
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

Just post them.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

You need to drop the 27 downwards towards the low 20's. Raise the 14 up to about 17/18.

Stop playing Aces lower than A10o. Being in control of pots is way more +ev than calling with catching hands!
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

Read the entire uNL essentials sticky. This may be just as valuable as a good sklansky book!
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:35 AM
Mal_Pais Mal_Pais is offline
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

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P.S. I play NL 0.5-0.10 on Party. PT - 27/14/ 3.5/2/1.9.

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Is this 6-max? I would work on the the 27%. I used to have similar 6-max numbers, and I found myself in lot of marginal spots.

Since this is more a general question, I offer a general answer. Stop open-limping if you're doing it. Stop calling preflop raises in the blinds with suited connectors, KQ, AJ, AT, KJ, and QJ. Dump those suited Aces in Early Position.

Make a conscious effort to concentrate on position. You want to be the aggressor preflop.

I don't know if this helps, but I suspect you're finding yourself in bad spots out of position with top pair, meh kicker hands.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

watch alot of low stakes cardrunner vids over and over again. doing this was hands down the best thing ive ever done for my game.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Unlearning Fit-or-Fold postflop

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watch alot of low stakes cardrunner vids over and over again. doing this was hands down the best thing ive ever done for my game.

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gl at the tables shmack, you seem to play a game similar to mine.

TO THE OP: watch CR's NL25 or NL50 videos, read the stickies, watch videos on the forum, etc.


not playing fit/fold is something that is developed with experience. you pick up on things and then using a players #'s and the texture of the board you can make some call downs with PP's on boards that beat you, but ABC pokah is still the way to go.

I don't remember if I had any hands where I called down in my latest video without a "strong" top pair type hand when I had PP's, but it's pretty easy to call down one street.
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