$22, 2 postflop questions

[jfly]

(1)

UTG+1 and MP2 both limping wide and are bad players in general

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t1440)
BB (t1490)
Hero (t1470)
UTG+1 (t900)
MP1 (t2200)
MP2 (t2310)
CO (t1970)
Button (t1720)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t100) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (t100) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t70</font>, UTG+1 calls t70, MP2 calls t70, SB folds, BB folds.

River: (t310) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ...


(2)

Raiser's stats were something like 15/8 after 30 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1270)
CO (t5159)
Hero (t1340)
SB (t1695)
BB (t668)
UTG (t1498)
MP1 (t1870)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t150</font>, Hero ...

[vers]

For hand 1, if they are both bad players, I think we should value bet here after a brick riv. I would be betting about 200.

Hand 2 is a bit difficult and read dependent. He has pretty nitty stats, but his flop cbet looks very weak and I would be inclined to raise it (I don't like calling b/c I don't want to give him a free chance to hit overs and a lot of bad cards in general can hit turn to make us very unconfident about our hand). I'd be raising to like 500, which commits us to the hand, so I would be calling shoves. As I said, it's read dependent.

[Un4m.gl]

Hand 1
I would raise preflop, on the river I would betfold.

Hand 2
Call or raise, depends on how aggressive villain is, mostly I would call here.