Marginal TP 6max

[fretelöo]

Need get back to posting a few more hands.

Villain here is very loose and passive; haven't seen him raise pf yet and def. have seen him limp AQo and 99. Also, I have been at the table for only 15 hands or so, thus no extensive reads beyond their general pf tendencies.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1.1/$2.2
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, MP calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP folds.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2.25BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2.25BB, 2 players)
Hero ???

[Dr. Matt]

ez bet.

[fretelöo]

... and the justification being...? Villain doesn't have A7, A4, A3 or he would have raised the turn, Villain doesn't have a stronger ace because he would have raised pf - no, wait, he wouldn't have...

But anyway, since an ace is somewhat unlikely, I'm fearing K7/Q7 and not much else, really. 5x, I guess. Thus, while the flop and turn bets were to some extend "if he wants to draw he has to pay" kind of bets, I have some reasonable chance of being best here and b/f.

Kinda like that?

[Dr. Matt]

you said yourself he's loose passive. At 6-max those suckers call down with any pair or any stupid draw. Expect to see 3x(win), 4x(win), 5x(lose), 6x(win), 7x(who knows), 22(win), x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]y(blank)(win).

It's a definite b/f situation though.

[HouseCalls]

I'm just learning 6-max so help me out...

Do you lead this flop every time?
Seems like a pretty bad reverse implied ods hand against 3 opponents.
HU I would lead against 3 I would probably check and call one check and fold if its two bets back to me.

[fretelöo]

I have TP - why wouldn't I lead?

No one here except UTG could have a PP higher than 77 - they'd raised pf. Since most villains are sane enough not to limp 73s, there's the unlikely 33 or 44 I'm afraid of and not much else.

Edit: About the RIOs - that's why I bet NOW!

[HouseCalls]

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No one here except UTG could have a PP higher than 77 - they'd raised pf. Since most villains are sane enough not to limp 73s, there's the unlikely 33 or 44 I'm afraid of and not much else.

Edit: About the RIOs - that's why I bet NOW!

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I agree with all of this against 1 opponent (and maybe 2) but against 3 I don't think you are likely to get everyine to fold. On the turn and river - any heart is bad 2,5, or 6 set up posssible straights, 9-A are overcards to your pair. If I knew I could lead and play for one bet ok, but I don't want to lead get raised and have to play from there.

If you lead and get raised what would you do?

[MrWookie]

Fish,

7x is almost always a loss, since we only beat 72 from that category.

[fretelöo]

Call for sure. Then see what happenes on the turn. As there's a fd on the board, he could have raised for a free card. So another flush card would make me give up, probably. As would many OCs. Basically, play my 5-outer.


But I think you take this the wrong way - I don't worry what happens if I get raised because I don't think I get raised that often in the first place. I completed the SB. My range is HUGE. Each of them (should, at least) know(s) that. So, given that I am probably the most likely of all to have connected to this board, I don't think I get bluff-raised a lot, since they can assume I show down most pairs unless some scare cards hit. On the other hand, I don't think there are many hands that would make sense for them that could raise me legitimately.

[Buzz-cp]

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ez bet.

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no?