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08-18-2007, 06:14 AM
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Re: Hand Reading (I think from pokey)
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This is probably it. theres also an answer in his well post that describes perfectly thought process through a hand. If i find it i`ll link. Guy`s a genius edit: here`s the other thing: [ QUOTE ] Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What does your thought process sound like during a given hand? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Everybody folded except idiot-boy, but he doesn't count. I'm in CO with KTo; with this hand I could raise, call, or fold. The blinds are rolling over to raises quite often, and I haven't made any noise in an orbit and a half; I think I've got lots of folding equity here. Add in the overlay from idiot-boy and I think it's time to steal me some blinds. I'd say 5xBB should get me heads-up, and a c-bet should drag the pot down. The blinds folded as expected, and idiot-boy came along for the ride, as expected. He checked to me as expected. The board is paired -- that's good news, because he's much less likely to have connected with it (5 hole cards match this board instead of 9 on an unpaired board). I missed, but there's a Q on the board, which is a scare card for villain. I always bet about 3/4ths the pot when I c-bet, and I'm surely not going to vary that here: bombs away. Villain calls -- that's mildly annoying, but he could have ANYTHING, so I'm still drawing live. Turn is a J, giving me an OESD. Villain checks to me again. Well, now I've got a choice -- if I check, I'm taking a free card to a straight. However, the only way I win if I check is if I connect. This guy isn't the check-raising type, so I'm going to bet again: if he hasn't hit the board yet, he's going to get out of my way, and even if he HAS, I'll still have a chance to hit a VERY sneaky straight on the river and take the pot (plus more, since there's no way he puts me on a straight in that situation). Before I bet, let me check stack sizes: yeah, we're both relatively deep. That's good -- my implied odds are strong even if he does call. Half the pot is often a sticky point for players, so I'll bet slightly more than half for a big jump in folding equity. He calls; damn, he's got SOMETHING, but I have no clue what. Well, whatever he has, it's better than my hand now but worse than my hand if I hit, and he's not folding it. I can live with this situation. River is a 9; booyah. Villain checks AGAIN. Well, he's got 1.2xPot behind. I could make a small teaser bet and he'd call, or I can push. If I push on this blank, villain's calling with any Q or with his trips, and given his play so far I think he's almost surely got one of those hands. I'll wait a couple seconds so that it looks more like I'm talking myself into a bluff and then I'm pushing. That's right, donkey, I knew you'd call me. Thanks for your stack. Now to say something friendly in the chat window so that he rebuys and pays me off again." [/ QUOTE ] 
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08-18-2007, 10:54 AM
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Re: Hand Reading (I think from pokey)
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What does your thought process sound like during a given hand? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Everybody folded except idiot-boy, but he doesn't count. I'm in CO with KTo; with this hand I could raise, call, or fold. The blinds are rolling over to raises quite often, and I haven't made any noise in an orbit and a half; I think I've got lots of folding equity here. Add in the overlay from idiot-boy and I think it's time to steal me some blinds. I'd say 5xBB should get me heads-up, and a c-bet should drag the pot down. The blinds folded as expected, and idiot-boy came along for the ride, as expected. He checked to me as expected. The board is paired -- that's good news, because he's much less likely to have connected with it (5 hole cards match this board instead of 9 on an unpaired board). I missed, but there's a Q on the board, which is a scare card for villain. I always bet about 3/4ths the pot when I c-bet, and I'm surely not going to vary that here: bombs away. Villain calls -- that's mildly annoying, but he could have ANYTHING, so I'm still drawing live. Turn is a J, giving me an OESD. Villain checks to me again. Well, now I've got a choice -- if I check, I'm taking a free card to a straight. However, the only way I win if I check is if I connect. This guy isn't the check-raising type, so I'm going to bet again: if he hasn't hit the board yet, he's going to get out of my way, and even if he HAS, I'll still have a chance to hit a VERY sneaky straight on the river and take the pot (plus more, since there's no way he puts me on a straight in that situation). Before I bet, let me check stack sizes: yeah, we're both relatively deep. That's good -- my implied odds are strong even if he does call. Half the pot is often a sticky point for players, so I'll bet slightly more than half for a big jump in folding equity. He calls; damn, he's got SOMETHING, but I have no clue what. Well, whatever he has, it's better than my hand now but worse than my hand if I hit, and he's not folding it. I can live with this situation. River is a 9; booyah. Villain checks AGAIN. Well, he's got 1.2xPot behind. I could make a small teaser bet and he'd call, or I can push. If I push on this blank, villain's calling with any Q or with his trips, and given his play so far I think he's almost surely got one of those hands. I'll wait a couple seconds so that it looks more like I'm talking myself into a bluff and then I'm pushing. That's right, donkey, I knew you'd call me. Thanks for your stack. Now to say something friendly in the chat window so that he rebuys and pays me off again." [/ QUOTE ] wow. thats just one sick thought process, although i could imagine people don't really think like THAT during a game, it comes more naturally to them during the game, as there isn't that much time (at least not online)??? Also anyone got something on thought process for LIMIT players?
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