Stupid Dealer Trick #143

[bav]

Tonight's stupid dealer trick.

Good ol' Kansas man has been raising to $15 pre-flop about 60% of the time in our NL1/3 game. New dealer sits down and in his first three hands sees the guy raise to $15 each time.

So I'm in the BB and we have fold, limp, fold, and Kansas asks the dealer "how much is it to me?" Dealer laughs and says "$15". My mouth drops but I'm too speechless to say something instantly, and Kansas says "ok" and puts out $15. A player behind says "WAITAMINUTE--What do you mean it's $15 to him--there was no raise" and the dealer just laughs and says "he would have raised anyway." That player tells the dealer "you REALLY shouldn't do that" as he folds and the dealer again just laughs and says it doesn't matter 'cause this guy would have made it $15. When it comes to me I look right at the dealer and say "do NOT do that again" and he seems finally to grasp that just maybe that was not such a funny stunt.

That's about as blatantly interfering with the betting as a dealer can do short of reaching into a player's stack and physically betting it for him. Never seen something quite like it.

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Yeah, that was dumb.

I don't think the table is the place to handle it though.

[bav]

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Yeah, that was dumb.

I don't think the table is the place to handle it though.

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The choices are to quickly let the dealer know right then and there that he screwed up. Or to go rat him out to the floor. There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked).

So I thought it best to just be sure the dealer really does understand he blew it and move on--only reason I paused to say something was because the dealer blew off the other player's comment about it. I made my comment, dealer said something like "ok, I'm sorry" and that was that. Issue resolved, and I'm $3 poorer.

[SamIAm]

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So I thought it best to just be sure the dealer really does understand he blew it and move on--only reason I paused to say something was because the dealer blew off the other player's comment about it. I made my comment, dealer said something like "ok, I'm sorry" and that was that. Issue resolved, and I'm $3 poorer.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with your line, especially since he blew-off the first comment.

You want the sound to be friendly, so the other players aren't spooked, but the eye-contact to be strong, so the dealer knows you mean buisness.
-Sam

[youtalkfunny]

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There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked).

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So the dealer was right.

Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway.

Sure, in a perfect world, the dealer keeps his mouth shut. But there are degrees to every infraction. I just don't see this in line with a capital offense.

[NickMPK]

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There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked).

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So the dealer was right.

Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway.

Sure, in a perfect world, the dealer keeps his mouth shut. But there are degrees to every infraction. I just don't see this in line with a capital offense.

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But how do you know the raising guy wouldn't reraise to $50 or something like that if it was already raised before him? Having the bet already be $15 when it gets to this guy could change the complexion of the hand completely.

[lowpockets]

This guy is doing everyone at the table a favor by making it $15 pf every time. If you don't know how to counteract this situation and turn it into something very profitable for yourself (also given the other players reaction to frequently flat calling his raise) - then you should play blackjack.

This is pretty much the same thing as a guy always straddling. It gives a lot of action that wouldn't normally be there.

Just in case I need to spell it out for you - lets say you have a top 5 hand and you are in the big blind. This bozo raises to $15, and you get a couple callers. That is the baby no-limit dream. You have the best hand p/f with a pot that is already around $50 in a game with an average pot of $25?!?! Derrrrrrrrrr...... Just make sure he is on your left and don't do anything to discourage his behavior (even if the dealer did f--- it up).

[tom10167]

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There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked).

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So the dealer was right.

Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway.


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Seconded. However, after someone made a comment I would have been apologetic. You guys don't know much about table dynamics huh.

[tom10167]

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There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked).

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So the dealer was right.

Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway.


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Seconded. However, after someone made a comment I would have been apologetic. You guys don't know much about table dynamics huh.

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There's nothing that can be done to fix the damage unless Kansas wants to take back his $15 and make it $3 (he does not--he was asked).

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So the dealer was right.

Mark me in the minority column, because I think you guys are making too big a thing out of this. The guy was going to make it $15 anyway.

Sure, in a perfect world, the dealer keeps his mouth shut. But there are degrees to every infraction. I just don't see this in line with a capital offense.

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But how do you know the raising guy wouldn't reraise to $50 or something like that if it was already raised before him? Having the bet already be $15 when it gets to this guy could change the complexion of the hand completely.

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....Just because someone makes it $15 doesn't prevent anyone other than the original raiser from making it $50. In Foxwoods at least we allow more than one raise preflop.

[VORP]

Wow, what the dealer did here is really bad. I would never do this in the box and would be pissed if a dealer did so while I was playing.