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Old 10-23-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

Okay, in the process of speaking with a number of people involved in the AP situation over the last week, I made a few contacts who think it's a good idea to bring me down to Costa Rica for a week. I'll explain...

First, I am not going to audit the company. I do not have the resources, expertise or power to audit the company. They have Gaming Associates there doing an audit on the admitted cheating accounts.

Second, I am receiving compensation. I am not going to say exactly what it is right now, but I probably will later on. I will say that I am getting a fee+travel/expenses and that the fee is substantial, but not enough to compromise my judgment. The money I'm receiving has no impact on me as I make plenty of money elsewhere in the poker world. On the advice of my lawyer, I was told to ask for a certain amount and they said okay.

Also, I plan on giving 25% of what I receive to someone else or possibly multiple people. I originally planned on giving it to the guy who sent out the file, but for reasons that I cannot explain, I may not do that. Either way, 25% of it will go to people who were instrumental in this process.

Third, I am mainly going as a representative for 2p2, P5s and the rest of the online poker community. I am going to ask questions, view data, get explanations, etc. I will be writing a detailed "trip report"-style writeup when I return home.

Okay, with that out of the way, here's what I need:

1. If you have AP HHs that you feel are shady, please send them to me as a text attachment at natarem@gmail.com. I will not open word, excel, etc type files. Text only. I will probably not respond to emails to confirm receipt.
2. If you know something that has not been posted, please email me the story at natarem@gmail.com. I will be putting together a list of things that I am going to ask and more info is always helpful.

Also:

1. Please do NOT send me PMs.
2. If you have sensitive info, please do not post it in the thread.
3. Do not send me all of your AP HHs. One of the reasons I'm asking for text is because I don't want ZIP/RAR archives of someone's entire AP HH folder. I am not going to look for cheating in your specific HHs. I want help identifying any other possible accounts, so suspect HHs only please.

Lastly:

1. Post any non-sensitive info questions in this thread. I will ultimately decide what I will actually ask and report back on, but teddyfbi asked for a forum to ask questions. I can do that for 2p2 and P5s.
2. Once again, do not PM me. Use my email natarem@gmail.com to send information that is sensitive.

I am not going with the plan of finding some smoking gun of a further cover up. I am going to ask questions, look around, etc. I will give everyone my honest opinion of what I think of AP, their management, their day-to-day operation, etc.

Thanks,

Nat

PS - Please keep discussions of things like my safety out of this thread. I've been assured of my safety and while I am obviously taking some level of risk, it's over and done with. Just keep this thread on point with what I should be looking for, looking at, etc.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

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Old 10-23-2007, 03:25 PM
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tarp?
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:26 PM
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:27 PM
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Go, Nat, Go! You are a gentleman and a scholar.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:29 PM
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Your being paid by AP for this visit??
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

Its not really in the OP:

What are you hoping to accomplish in Costa Rica?
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

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Its not really in the OP:

What are you hoping to accomplish in Costa Rica?

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I'm hoping to bring back a detailed report for online poker communities explaining my thoughts on the cheating that went on (they have promised to show me details of how it happened), the current management, the effectiveness of the audit, etc.

And even though I am not auditing them, I will have access to anything that is not related to the known cheating accounts. I will, in fact, be performing some audit-like functions but I'd rather not lay out my plan publicly.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:36 PM
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awesome. good luck nat - thanks for doing all this work. hopefully the compensation will allow you to keep working on this until it's resolved - i completely understand how you want to pass this on to someone else, but you really are the best guy for this.

thanks again.
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: AP Visit: I\'m going to Costa Rica

A couple of things I forgot to mention...

1. The known cheating accounts are the exclusive domain of the auditors. I cannot access that data. Other than that, I've been told I can see whatever I want.

2. AP wanted it to be known that they are committed to keeping auditors around for at least 6 months.

3. If people don't know much about me, they might think I can be swayed by money. I can't. I have all of the money that I need. If you don't believe it, ask anyone who knows me and they will vouch for my credibility and integrity.
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