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Old 11-19-2007, 09:45 AM
tomek322 tomek322 is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

I saw 3 l/r PF yesterday... AJ, 88, 33.

I think people have started to use this play more liberally than when Doyle Brunson wrote SS. I shove it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

seeing its early
i shove
if its AA/KK/AK and lose i just start up new tourney
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

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Old 11-19-2007, 01:45 PM
JesseB_11 JesseB_11 is offline
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

Tough spot, but I've seen some marignal hands show up here. I shove this
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

idiots do it with a really wide range but your read is that he has his head on his shoulders..

i'd fold this only because of the amount of people in the hand makes his tendency to get cute a little less.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

If he knows what he's doing this is about "what does he thinks that i think that he thinks that i think"... He had 33bb pre-flop and limped UTG+1. I didn't like this spot. I'd fold here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

tomek 322
I have seen the same thing. Shove and if AA or KK you can say NH and pray for a suckout while you open the tourny schedule to register for the next one.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

The interesting point on this hand is that UTG+1 had 2 limpers behind him.

Therefore I gave him a wider range for his 3-bet, than I would do if we were heads-up, as he has to kick out the limpers.

So the end of the story:

I typed in the chat-box "KK+?" and shoved - he turned over KK and I lost. Still I think the shove was correct on this situation imo.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: Full Tilt $30 MTT; QQ in the BB

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I typed in the chat-box "KK+?" and shoved - he turned over KK and I lost. Still I think the shove was correct on this situation imo.

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the shove may have been correct, but it's a lot more marginal here than a little later in the tournament, at least then it's somewhat more likely that your opponent could be re-raising putting you on a steal after the multiple limpers, however, it's unlikely a good player is going to come to that conclusion when the bb is t40

however the more important issue is you typing "KK+?" in chat, this is pretty much always completely wrong imo
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