Am i beat on the river?

TheGoon · #1 10-01-2007, 06:16 AM

UTG is a 30/16 seems ok post flop and i've got no stats on the Button he been on table about 3/4 orbit and is very loose preflop, cold calling alot! and a total calling station post flop.
I'm not quite sure what i should do on the river, the board and action is scary but the pot is big.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG caps, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero ?

inferno · #2 10-01-2007, 06:20 AM

ughhhh I call and lose

rzk · #3 10-01-2007, 06:43 AM

i would let it go, albeit reluctantly. you are probably beat by utg's AA, KK or TT at least 50% of the time (a sane utg won't bet into 3 people on the turn with AK), so u r essentially paying 1BB to win 6 or 7BB vs. the button. i think it's fairly close but you are probably good vs him slightly less than the effective pot odds given his description as a calling station.

xerxesthegod · #4 10-01-2007, 07:00 AM

On the turn I hardly see anything you beat from a 30/16 player who capped preflop. Maybe A,K but Is he betting A,K again after three players called his flop bet???
I'd actually fold the flop if the pot wasn't that big.

Sidomija · #5 10-01-2007, 07:16 AM

There is 4 players in the pot, flop is draw heavy, UTG is probably capping with AK,KK,QQ...and you have only 2 outs I would fold on the flop!

rzk · #6 10-01-2007, 07:36 AM

your two outs alone are enough to peel this flop.

mvoss · #7 10-01-2007, 07:41 AM

Edit: I'm a retard.

gehrig · #8 10-01-2007, 07:44 AM

wtf dont fold

who the [censored] knows what button has
utg has ak a ton
theres like 86 bets there

i would donk river since i doubt anyone can fold ace high theres nothing theyre gonna bluff with if u check (well maybe the huge fish might) and u dont have to even think about calling a raise