Stars $55r, Let me 4-bet AI now, k thx

mikeJ · #1 06-05-2007, 01:55 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t6361)
BB (t36122)
UTG (t14153)
MP1 (t19270)
MP2 (t22795)
Hero (t58036)
Button (t9124)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t3600, 2 folds, BB raises to t8400, Hero ?

I've been @ table for 2 orbits, reraising once, and this is 3rd pot i've opened. I haven't gone to showdown yet. Villain is unknown.

djk123 · #2 06-05-2007, 02:01 AM

Hmmmm this is tough. I don't like that small reraise. I'd prolly just fold. I'd be much more incline to call a shove than stick it in here after that reraise.

Eagles · #3 06-05-2007, 02:31 AM

I probably jam here its close though

the alex · #4 06-05-2007, 04:57 PM

I jam, though I did this in the hijack with 77 and got pwnd by TT last night.

Is flatting him bad here? We have the FE to cut the hand in half on the flop in position. It won't be easy, but how doable is it?

aejones · #5 06-05-2007, 05:17 PM

w/ given info i fold and don't think it's too close. small 3-bet from an unknown here makes it seem like 77 is in big trouble vs his range.

curtains · #6 06-05-2007, 05:21 PM

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w/ given info i fold and don't think it's too close. small 3-bet from an unknown here makes it seem like 77 is in big trouble vs his range.

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yea probably but its annoying.

stillnotking · #7 06-08-2007, 06:04 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t6361)
BB (t36122)
UTG (t14153)
MP1 (t19270)
MP2 (t22795)
Hero (t58036)
Button (t9124)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t3600, 2 folds, BB raises to t8400, Hero ?

I've been @ table for 2 orbits, reraising once, and this is 3rd pot i've opened. I haven't gone to showdown yet. Villain is unknown.

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Why give up your positional advantage by jamming pre? Jamming might make him fold AQ/KQ/KJ type hands (maybe even 88), but he is giving up a lot less equity there than you would be giving up to him when he calls with 99-AA.

Call, see the flop. The money is deep enough that he's not going to want to jam in the dark with a whiffed AK/AQ. That means you have a golden opportunity to outplay him.

curtains · #8 06-08-2007, 06:09 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t6361)
BB (t36122)
UTG (t14153)
MP1 (t19270)
MP2 (t22795)
Hero (t58036)
Button (t9124)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t3600, 2 folds, BB raises to t8400, Hero ?

I've been @ table for 2 orbits, reraising once, and this is 3rd pot i've opened. I haven't gone to showdown yet. Villain is unknown.

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Why give up your positional advantage by jamming pre? Jamming might make him fold AQ/KQ/KJ type hands (maybe even 88), but he is giving up a lot less equity there than you would be giving up to him when he calls with 99-AA.

Call, see the flop. The money is deep enough that he's not going to want to jam in the dark with a whiffed AK/AQ. That means you have a golden opportunity to outplay him.

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If the board blanks I'm pretty sure they will push with AK being that they have like 24k and pot is like 18k

stillnotking · #9 06-08-2007, 06:29 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t6361)
BB (t36122)
UTG (t14153)
MP1 (t19270)
MP2 (t22795)
Hero (t58036)
Button (t9124)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t3600, 2 folds, BB raises to t8400, Hero ?

I've been @ table for 2 orbits, reraising once, and this is 3rd pot i've opened. I haven't gone to showdown yet. Villain is unknown.

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Why give up your positional advantage by jamming pre? Jamming might make him fold AQ/KQ/KJ type hands (maybe even 88), but he is giving up a lot less equity there than you would be giving up to him when he calls with 99-AA.

Call, see the flop. The money is deep enough that he's not going to want to jam in the dark with a whiffed AK/AQ. That means you have a golden opportunity to outplay him.

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If the board blanks I'm pretty sure they will push with AK being that they have like 24k and pot is like 18k

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Depends very much on how "blank" we are talking. 332 rainbow, sure. J98 with two spades, not too many players are jamming AKo for 24k into someone who called a 3bet. Interestingly, this means that unpaired high cards are more likely to take shots at flops that are favorable for 77. That can only work in hero's favor.

jimmytrick · #10 06-08-2007, 06:35 PM

77 is a hand that likes to see all five cards so obv. shove.