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Old 10-31-2007, 11:21 PM
Terkman Terkman is offline
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Default Re: 50/1 flop spot

Who is villain? and are you a prima regular?
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: 50/1 flop spot

all in
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: 50/1 flop spot

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jesus this is a fken [censored] spot.

i'd find a way to stack off, not sure how tho, definitely a spot where his range should be a LOT of air, which you're ahead of obv.

what about 5150 call shove?

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heh maybe a bit too much here. id rather call and stack off on the turn
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: 50/1 flop spot

Player dependent obv. His range seems to be very wide. I would call since we have position and re-evaluate on turn. I would fold to a bet on turn.
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Old 11-01-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: 50/1 flop spot

i think its close between call/call and call/fold assuming he shoves turn.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:06 AM
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reraise or call.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:57 AM
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what turn would make you fold? certainly not an a or k right?

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I am sort of a noob here.

Why isn't he likely to have A or K here? Like low suited ace (maybe A6s even? or would he just plain call A6 because it has some showdown value?), or KJs/KTs?

And why isn't he likely to have smth like QJs/QTs?
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:03 PM
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Brutal spot. I think I call/fold to a turn bet. I hate playing marginal big pots against players that could be steaming from the previous hand, I find it messes with my perception of their hand too much. He could very well be protecting a 6 or something stupid with his flop-raise so I think you should never really be folding flop here. Would hate to call flop and see an all in if a K hits though. Weird spot.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:36 PM
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I don't mind a min-raise call shove. There is no way you should get away from this. He only has a Q 9% of the time randomly.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:43 PM
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what turn would make you fold? certainly not an a or k right?

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I am sort of a noob here.

Why isn't he likely to have A or K here? Like low suited ace (maybe A6s even? or would he just plain call A6 because it has some showdown value?), or KJs/KTs?

And why isn't he likely to have smth like QJs/QTs?

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usually when they turn an A or K they now have showdown value and no need to bluff you. they also might fear a Q
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