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#1
05-13-2007, 03:16 AM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
ON: Btw im using win Vista right now and havin probs with pokeroffice and its livetracker/table overlay, is this going to be a problem here u think?
OFF: duffy; ever tested the waters @ Boss network? 
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#2
05-13-2007, 03:55 PM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
OFF:You mean Boss Media(or IPN)? I just registrated there [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Not for 5Draw - it hasn't there [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I'm interesting in Omaha PL
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#3
05-13-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
How about these ideas?
-He releases it just for non-Pokerstars sites, so the stars games will still be alive. -He releases a limited version for less money. No HUD, and you can only keep track of your own stats. -We all pay Domit $50 to not release it.
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#4
05-13-2007, 10:27 PM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
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How about these ideas? -He releases it just for non-Pokerstars sites, so the stars games will still be alive. -He releases a limited version for less money. No HUD, and you can only keep track of your own stats. -We all pay Domit $50 to not release it. [/ QUOTE ] Personally, I'd rather see it released ONLY for Stars, as I don't play there much anyway... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And on another note, I actually think that the sites should ban all use of HUD software... I mean, the essence of poker, if anything, IS reading your opponents... Having software automatically make reads (however crude they may be) is not (much) better than having a bot play automatically for you... Just my 2c.
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#5
05-14-2007, 03:04 AM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] How about these ideas? -He releases it just for non-Pokerstars sites, so the stars games will still be alive. -He releases a limited version for less money. No HUD, and you can only keep track of your own stats. -We all pay Domit $50 to not release it. [/ QUOTE ] Personally, I'd rather see it released ONLY for Stars, as I don't play there much anyway... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And on another note, I actually think that the sites should ban all use of HUD software... I mean, the essence of poker, if anything, IS reading your opponents... Having software automatically make reads (however crude they may be) is not (much) better than having a bot play automatically for you... Just my 2c. [/ QUOTE ] Your 2c isnt worth the coper needed to make the pennies however. A HUD only levels the playing field between the B&M environment, and the online world. In B&M games you can determine a player profile rather quickly, in online games complicated without at least some history. A Hud allows you to develop a theoretical read, all softwares that provide a read for a player has been banned because its the equivalent of a bot. Remember a HUD doesn't provide a read, it provides numbers which lets the player develop his or her own read. Also remember without poker tracker we would all be screwed, we are required to track our session level winnings/losses according to the IRS. Poker Tracker is actually encouraged by every site i am aware of, and to date there is only one site that is anti-HUD, do the math - its logical.
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#6
05-14-2007, 11:37 AM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
Hmm... You can't get a read on a player without the HUD numbers? That's probably because you play a lot of tables, not because it's on the internet... But it's just my crummy 2c, as usual... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
And of course the HUD numbers is a (crude) read on a player. You don't think that knowing if a player is tight or loose is a first/basic/crude read on a player? Not much meat, but still a read. Also, there's no need to "level the playing field" between B&M and online poker. To level the playing field is to make sure that all competitors in a competition are competing under the same conditions, NOT to make sure that competitors in DIFFERENT competitions are competing under the same conditions... And anyway, I think that the note taking features in most poker clients should be enough to compensate for not being able to see your opponents. But, whatever ones opinion on that is, everyone should be able to see, I think, that, in the discussion on level playing fields, third party support software like HUDs are of course making the playing field (in online poker) LESS level, rather than more! That IS the reason that you are using that kind of software, to get a playing field that is more to your advantage compared to your opponents that is not using that kind of support software.
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#7
05-14-2007, 12:02 PM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
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third party support software like HUDs are of course making the playing field (in online poker) LESS level, rather than more! That IS the reason that you are using that kind of software, to get a playing field that is more to your advantage compared to your opponents that is not using that kind of support software. [/ QUOTE ] It's also why we read poker books and poker forums, and think about the way we play both while we're playing hands and while we aren't. Trying to have a level playing field between me and the drunk guy who's convinced his quads are good in a 2-7 game is already pointless. Most of my play is TD27 and therefore HUD-free, but playing HUD-free and playing with a HUD really aren't all that different.
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#9
05-14-2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
I think that if someone wants to learn to play draw, they will, if someone wants to play draw without any knowledge, they will. If you don't want a HUD, You might as well advocate destroying all articles written about draw because the fish will read them and then there won't be fish. Wrong, fish don't read poker articles, at least, they don't understand them.
Beach whale, you should really be excited... now you can get even more money from the lesser players. I have seen plenty of players online who don't play correctly and come back day after day (This is draw). Now they may even be winning players against other bad ones, but I'm still going to have an advantage over them.
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#10
05-14-2007, 01:06 PM
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Re: Draw HH Tracker
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Beach whale, you should really be excited... now you can get even more money from the lesser players. [/ QUOTE ] Well, that's just what I disagree with (in the long run), as you may have read... I think that the effect will actually be the opposite, just like northern Europe may well get a colder climate as a result of global warming. Draw is a sensitive game, since it is so easy to slaughter the bad players. And we all know that milking is better than slaughtering.
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