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Old 07-26-2007, 02:05 AM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

Villain is a solid winning regular, xyz888. This obviously isn't my normal line but it felt right here.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1340)
MP3 (t1580)
CO (t1470)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1670)
BB (t1530)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1440)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t80, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t60.

Flop: (t270) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, Hero folds,
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

seems good, a strong player isnt cbetting worse on that board (AK hearts maybe, but thats close anyways), plus utg behind you prob makes this a fold, no harm no foul.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

why no 3-bet pf?
is it cuz if he 4bets, you have to fold and if they fold, you haven't won this much?
enlight me plz! : )
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

His range from UTG is very tight and I don't know if he's a push AK preflop kind of guy so I'd rather see a flop in position and hopefully outplay him.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

This looks like a solid play. I really think this is one of the things you have to be able to do at higher stakes vs lower.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

i'd take the same line vs this villian. nice hand.

that is beauty of calling preflop with QQ and having 3 see the flop. his hand becomes very transparent when he c-bets this flop.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

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i'd take the same line vs this villian. nice hand.

that is beauty of calling preflop with QQ and having 3 see the flop. his hand becomes very transparent when he c-bets this flop.

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If you're playing me I'm going to c-bet that flop about 95% of the time. I knew there was a good reason I do that.
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

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i'd take the same line vs this villian. nice hand.

that is beauty of calling preflop with QQ and having 3 see the flop. his hand becomes very transparent when he c-bets this flop.

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If you're playing me I'm going to c-bet that flop about 95% of the time. I knew there was a good reason I do that.

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This is very bad, especially on a flop like that. I hope I just plugged a leak for you.

Ryan
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:17 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

If he is raising something like AK,JJ+ here then the fold is definitley the best play. You are only good if he is c-betting into 2 players with AK, JJ/KK/AA all have you beat and you split QQ. He would have to be opening very wide to make this a call or raise I would think. I like it.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: ($114) Fold QQ to one flop bet

Seems weak, but I can't find a flaw in it. NH
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