Open push 4x pot? I call of course

[ajmargarine]

Villian seems sorta/kinda like he's not the best player in the history of poker. That's just my impression. Your guess to his range is as good as mine.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $196.80
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $214.50</font>
UTG: $102.40
BTN: $77.90

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $13

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($42) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $175.80</font>, Hero calls $175.80

What do we think of preflop?
Flop call?
If flop were 456 2 clubs instead, then I think I fold, eh?

[Fat Nicky]

pre-flop is ok w/me since we have position and we're 200BB deep.

that's a sick over shove. i think we're pretty close to even money and we're getting a decent overlay from the pot. i don't mind gambling and calling here at all.

here is a pokerstove....what do you think of the range i assigned:

Board: 3c 5c 4h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.826% 50.90% 02.92% 16126 926.00 { AcJc }
Hand 1: 46.174% 43.25% 02.92% 13702 926.00 { TT+, AKs, KcQc, AdKc, AhKc, AsKc, AcQh, AdQc }

[gir]

Preflop is sketchy...I'd get a solid read before I called his limpraises pre...but people who limpraise aren't very good to begin with, so I'm fine with it. And the flop call is fine. If it were 456 with two clubs, it would probably be a fold without a good read, yes. Because if you add 4 outs to you, that takes away 4 outs from him...So it's an 8 out stretch which is nearly 20%.

[Dr_Doctr]

I think calling this preflop is pretty marginal. I'm not sure about your read but the min-raise/4-bet line from bad players is nearly always a medium/big pair in my experience, unless there is some history. If he does this more than rarely then by all means call. But I think we can take KQ and AQ at the very least out of Fat Nicky's range against most Villians.

[KLJ]

given the way you got there, instacall

[carrotsnake]

only lil girls fold flush draws

[terp]

this is a fold

[tufat23]

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this is a fold

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yah, there J isnt clean and maybe not even the A

[aislephive]

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this is a fold

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No.

[aislephive]

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yah, there J isnt clean and maybe not even the A

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Against a range of KK+ our equity is 49.4%, add QQ and we're a 51% favorite. It's a gamble for sure, but certainly a correct call and it's not really debatable.