11$+R+A - QQ lategame

maddis · #1 10-01-2007, 05:13 PM

Ok, ~20 Players remaining, we are already in the money.
we got a raise here from a player who did nothing freaky before, I guess he is tight. his raise size is very scary for me. In my opinion my only options are to push or fold here, playing for set value makes no sense. whats our play?

TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T4-50938543-227
played at "Sioux City" for USD TC from 2007-10-01 16:08 until 2007-10-01 16:09
Seat 1: xas70 ($172,384 in chips)
Seat 2: Taavi1 ($169,083 in chips)
Seat 3: Lazze83 ($119,776 in chips)
Seat 5: HERO ($149,071 in chips)
Seat 6: supervizor ($57,605 in chips)
Seat 8: Dolly102 ($75,380 in chips)
Seat 9: WESTBLEEDER ($165,612 in chips)
Seat 10: AAwtf119 ($111,654 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
supervizor posts blind ($6,000), Dolly102 posts blind ($12,000).

Dealt to HERO: QQ

PRE-FLOP
WESTBLEEDER folds, AAwtf119 folds, xas70 calls $12,000, Taavi1 bets $40,000, Lazze83 folds, HERO ???

rubenrtv · #2 10-01-2007, 05:25 PM

I push here.

levAA · #3 10-01-2007, 05:29 PM

why do you think the bet size is scary - looks like a standard raise of 3,5xBB after one limper.

with QQ this is an easy push here.

maddis · #4 10-01-2007, 05:55 PM

okay thanks. got called by KK and although I know that I shouldnt be result orientated I wanted to post this one to be 100% sure that this is an easy push. by the way, do you also push JJ here?

Coz · #5 10-01-2007, 09:08 PM

Correct me if you do not think this is an accurate range but I put him at something like 77+, AJs+, AQo+. Against that range you have 55% equity with JJ, which means if I am playing to win I am probably shoving. Also, correct me if my math is wrong, I think it is right.

Toronto86er · #6 10-01-2007, 10:17 PM

Ms are relatively small too, I can't see anything but a shove here. wp.

Bond18 · #7 10-02-2007, 12:37 AM

Yea i mean sure it's scary, but you have QQ, ALL IN!

homanga · #8 10-02-2007, 04:04 PM

Gotta shove here. Unless this is a complete nit with an AK JJ+ range this is an easy push. Well Played

chim17 · #9 10-02-2007, 10:13 PM

I push JJ here as well.

Mr. GQ · #10 10-02-2007, 11:01 PM

Think about his range for raising like that and how QQ plays against it.

You'll find that an overwhelming amount of the time QQ is very +eV for shipping it all in here.