***yankees official offseason thread*****

[Matt Williams]

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Sublime,
I'm just gonna put it in this thread, hopefully you read it.... you said cano and cabrerara straight up would only be a marginal deal for the yankees... explain this, because everything I looked at has MIGUEL as a top 5 hitter all-time for his age...

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Look at Cano. He is a likely HOFer at 2nd base. Well in the sense that if he doesn't fall off the cliff or get injured. MCab is a 1st baseman. And a good one, but his numbers aren't the same at 1B.

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your starting a team from scratch...you really think cano is that comparable to miguel?

... not to mention the yankees replacement level players are higher than average due to their blessed financial situation.. they can always sign an above average guy... so premier players are more valuable to them

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Online,
Cabrera has NO DEFENSIVE VALUE. Cano has value by playing defense. Offense isn't everything you know. If Cano saves 1/4 a run per game on defense, that ends up being 40 runs over a season.

Not to mention that if Cabrera went to the Yankees, he would end up being a DH in a year or 2. NY could just keep Cano, and find a DH elsewhere. If Cabrera was awesome defensively, no one would argue w/ you.

[Thremp]

Given their current contracts. Yes, Cano ~ MCab

Cab will make 25 mil or so and be done faster than Cano.

[Triumph36]

not only that where are the yankees going to find a replacement 2b

rowand will be great for a year and then fall off a cliff - he is injury prone and center fielders don't age well. melky is an average defensive center fielder imo, and he will improve as a hitter.

[rwperu34]

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your starting a team from scratch...you really think cano is that comparable to miguel?


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If you were starting a small market team, then yes, Cano>Cabrera.

It's all moot since the Yankees aren't starting from scratch. They are a championship caliber team that has holes that need to be filled. If you trade Cano, arguably the second best 2b in MLB, you are creating a hole to fill a hole. Melky is easily replaceable via free agent, Kennedy's short term production is easily replaceable. Those are also two nice fits for Florida. The key is the 3rd/4th players. The Yankees have a very deep farm system and can give up two middle tier prospects (Ramirez, Gardner) or give up another top flight guy (Jackson, Betances). That would definitely be worth it from the Marlins POV (save money, fill black hole in CF). The question is, would anybody pony up more? The answer is, maybe.

[Vyse]

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There was a BP article a while back saying that the yankees should trade melky and cano + other stuff I don't remember for Cabrera

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Pretty sure this never happened

[Sickboy]

Andy MacPhail, the Orioles' president of baseball operations, said yesterday he is looking for players who are either ready for the majors or close to it, and it is unlikely that he would require one of the Yankees' big three to be part of a deal for Tejada.

MacPhail seemed impressed with the job Cashman has done in rebuilding the minor-league system, saying the talent extends beyond the three pitchers.

One of the Orioles' top needs is in the outfield, the one area other than pitching that the Yankees actually have some legitimate prospects. Brett Gardner, who stole 39 bases in 99 games between Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton this year after swiping 58 in the minors in 2006, is the closest to being ready for the big leagues, though lower-level prospects such as Jose Tabata and Austin Jackson are considered to be better long-term players.

The Orioles could take one of the outfielders along with a mid-level pitching prospect for Tejada, who hit .296 with 18 home runs and 81 RBI in 133 games this year. Tejada missed 29 games after breaking a bone in his wrist when he was hit by a pitch, but he had played in all 162 games in each of the previous six seasons.

Baltimore also would have interest in Kyle Farnsworth, as relievers Chris Ray and Danys Baez will miss the entire 2008 season following Tommy John surgery. Farnsworth pitched for the Cubs when MacPhail was an executive in Chicago.


Uhh..Cash...trade for Tejada please

[Rubeskies]

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Andy MacPhail, the Orioles' president of baseball operations, said yesterday he is looking for players who are either ready for the majors or close to it, and it is unlikely that he would require one of the Yankees' big three to be part of a deal for Tejada.

MacPhail seemed impressed with the job Cashman has done in rebuilding the minor-league system, saying the talent extends beyond the three pitchers.

One of the Orioles' top needs is in the outfield, the one area other than pitching that the Yankees actually have some legitimate prospects. Brett Gardner, who stole 39 bases in 99 games between Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton this year after swiping 58 in the minors in 2006, is the closest to being ready for the big leagues, though lower-level prospects such as Jose Tabata and Austin Jackson are considered to be better long-term players.

The Orioles could take one of the outfielders along with a mid-level pitching prospect for Tejada, who hit .296 with 18 home runs and 81 RBI in 133 games this year. Tejada missed 29 games after breaking a bone in his wrist when he was hit by a pitch, but he had played in all 162 games in each of the previous six seasons.

Baltimore also would have interest in Kyle Farnsworth, as relievers Chris Ray and Danys Baez will miss the entire 2008 season following Tommy John surgery. Farnsworth pitched for the Cubs when MacPhail was an executive in Chicago.


Uhh..Cash...trade for Tejada please

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If this article is article this NEEDS TO HAPPEN

[Vyse]

trading for miggy is probably a bad move

[Sickboy]

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trading for miggy is probably a bad move

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how so?

[Vyse]

his power has been declining substantially in recent years and he's never been a big OBP guy. not a wise investment.