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Old 09-29-2007, 04:26 AM
ShowUthExit ShowUthExit is offline
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Default top top gets donked into on turn

Early in session, nothing on villain, what kinda hands does he lead out a psb on turn with? Am I right to think KQ is a huuuge part of his range here?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $107.25
UTG+1: $391.15
Hero: $246.35
Button: $197
SB: $175.80
BB: $195

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $30</font>,
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

no reads means we have no idea
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:46 AM
rakes.a.beach rakes.a.beach is offline
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

i'll prob call/call
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

i bet more on the flop, 10-11. call turn and reevaluate river.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

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i bet more on the flop, 10-11. call turn and reevaluate river.

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Old 09-29-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

Im always amazed at how often this is a picked up flush draw on the turn. Howver with no reads it is all just speculation. I think a made hand donkbets you or checkraises you on the flop.
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:55 AM
yegon yegon is offline
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

from a donk who sees ghosts everywhere this could also be a big hand that fears you might have picked up a FD on the turn and does not want to risk you check behind
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:03 AM
yegon yegon is offline
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

actually a set of 4 or a 2pair (JT) come to mind, there is also a good straight draw on top of the FD so it might be a strong hand that does not want to see another card.

I also see players do this with a turned FD sometimes but mainly after a checked flop. KQ would probably raise flop or c/c or c/f turn imo.
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:09 AM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: top top gets donked into on turn

GRUNCH

bet more on flop for value.

KQ is maybe 50% of his range, Jx another 35% and maybe some random weird bluff another 15%.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:11 AM
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i bet more on the flop, 10-11. call turn and reevaluate river.

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