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Old 11-16-2006, 02:43 AM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Re: Time to fold a set on flop.....?

The key is to have MDMA post before everyone else.
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Old 11-16-2006, 03:36 AM
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i really dont ever fold this without reads. i am also a calling station.
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Old 11-16-2006, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Time to fold a set on flop.....?

I usually talk myself into a call thinking "Button smooth called AA and the BB has 2 pair." I almost always end up losing to either a s8 or higher set.

BB c/r 2 raisers is pretty scurry.
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Time to fold a set on flop.....?

wow, 2+2 likes to fold a flopped set? Awesome!

how do things change, if the board was two-tone?
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Old 11-16-2006, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Time to fold a set on flop.....?

Folding here is fine, woulda insta-called with 77 and probably 66 though.

Whats your play with 43 in OPs spot? I think that wouda had about the same "value" as 55 and a fold as well.
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Time to fold a set on flop.....?

I was a little tilty.

I said outloud. "I'm beat......[censored] it, I call."
I called.

Button called.


Button had 89.
BB had...Q8.

Turn: blank
River: 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Time to fold a set on flop.....?

[ QUOTE ]
I was a little tilty.

I said outloud. "I'm beat......[censored] it, I call."
I called.

Button called.


Button had 89.
BB had...Q8.

Turn: blank
River: 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Against that range you're doing great. The problem is, against a straight and two pair, you're dead to one out + running outs, and against straight + higher set you're dead to an out. This is a case of BA/WB - barely ahead or way behind, and a definite fold without reads.
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: Time to fold a set on flop.....?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I was a little tilty.

I said outloud. "I'm beat......[censored] it, I call."
I called.

Button called.


Button had 89.
BB had...Q8.

Turn: blank
River: 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Against that range you're doing great. The problem is, against a straight and two pair, you're dead to one out + running outs, and against straight + higher set you're dead to an out. This is a case of BA/WB - barely ahead or way behind, and a definite fold without reads.

[/ QUOTE ]

I didn't make it clear, but I agree. I think it's a clear fold in my tilt-free hindsight.
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