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Old 11-05-2007, 06:15 AM
Caveman172 Caveman172 is offline
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Default Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

Did I misplay this hand. The villian is a calling station. His VPIP is about 32%. Among many possiblities, I put him on a weak ace based on the action. This guy is not real aggresive. The bet on the end should have been my clue that I was beat.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($7.10)
CO ($41.75)
Hero ($8.90)
SB ($10.20)
BB ($8.65)
UTG ($12.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.30.

Flop: ($0.95) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.8</font>, UTG calls $0.80.

Turn: ($2.55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, UTG calls $2.

River: ($6.55) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5.7</font>, Hero calls $5.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $17.95
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:15 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

Yeah river is probably a fold.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:28 AM
IAGTTAYM IAGTTAYM is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

Uhm, just fold the river? He isn't value shoving worse and he inst aggro so he isnt bluffing missed clubs or w/e...
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

I'm folding river. We have a weak Ace against a very passive player. If they get aggressive they really have a hand most of the time.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

From what I've seen at these limits, people don't reraise a/k or a/q ever. I think you are likely second best since your jack or club didn't come, fold the river.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

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Did I misplay this hand. The villian is a calling station. His VPIP is about 32%. Among many possiblities, I put him on a weak ace based on the action.

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Lets have a quick look at those weak Aces.

We beat - A3/5/6/8/T
We are beaten by A2/4/7/9

plus higher kickers obv.

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This guy is not real aggresive. The bet on the end should have been my clue that I was beat.

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DING!

If a CS bets out on teh river after calling down good sized bets flop and turn you are almost always beat - and they are bluffing here so close to never that it's best just to fold.

He has one of those weak aces that made 2pair (I'd guess A4/A7) or he has a bigger hand than that like a flopped set that he was slowplaying)

nh until the river - solid Value betting our TPGK with nfd vs a CS is good stuff. River is a fold tho.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:50 AM
choccypie choccypie is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

Like the play up till river. Calling stations are not going to fold their top pair regardless of kicker. He could well have made a set but I think that's less likely than 2 pair. If a passive station starts betting into you on the river, alarm bells should be ringing that you're most likely beat.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:55 AM
argy1182 argy1182 is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

Perfect play until the river. You had an excellent holding considering your outs. Calling stations will rarely come out with this type of river bet without a significant hand. I'm thinking a set. Folding river
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:03 PM
Bigka79 Bigka79 is offline
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Default Re: Top Pair and kicker versus a calling station

fold. it sucks but we cant be givin it away here. we have to fold because he wouldnt make that move with a hand we can beat
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