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Old 10-26-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

If you raise they'll put you on the royal flush and fold straights, the only downside is if one of them has the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] - and how likely is that with a bet and two calls? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Old 10-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

Myles , turn call is pretty bad..

I didnt emphasizes it but UTG+1 was a borderline maniac..

I capped all streets with trips before and he showed ace high.
Another hand right before it, he gav eme similar action vs AA.

Plus even if I am behind, im pumping the pot 4 ways so I have basically equity to do so if im behind..

also I never claimed I folded <font color="brown"> </font> the best hand on the river for ppl assuming so...
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

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River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (24.5BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls and kicks his cat across the yard.

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Old 10-26-2007, 12:07 AM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (24.5BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls and kicks his cat across the yard.

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That looks so fun
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

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River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (24.5BB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls and kicks his cat across the yard.

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Amazing. And Brassmonkey's new avatar.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

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Myles , turn call is pretty bad..

I didnt emphasizes it but UTG+1 was a borderline maniac..

I capped all streets with trips before and he showed ace high.
Another hand right before it, he gav eme similar action vs AA.

Plus even if I am behind, im pumping the pot 4 ways so I have basically equity to do so if im behind..

also I never claimed I folded <font color="brown"> </font> the best hand on the river for ppl assuming so...

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pretty necessary information. against unknowns i'd just call the turn.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

tru dat
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

"Poker Stars
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Limit: $10/$20"

Based on the past 2 month i think calling here is really not that bad. People are idiots. But a fold is fine/right.

I have def called in this spot before though.
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Old 10-26-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

Something tells me SB could very likely have Ks Qs here for the royal.

Looks like a nice situation for a puke/fold. I have to say I probably call, though, only out of contempt.
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Old 10-26-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 -QQ - 30 to 1 , folding middle set

I actually thinking paying off here is the correct move, with those odds you only have to make this call and be right a very small percentage of the time to come out far ahead, sklanksy says "making a call when you are beat for one bet is a mistake, but folding when you havfe the best hand is a disaster" which means that in the long run folding here is actually probably -EV as crazy as it seems.
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