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Old 10-24-2007, 12:55 AM
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'Transcript per mediamatters.org'
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Theoretically media matters is a non partisan group but strangely they only attack Repubs..


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Right, they deviously hide their mission and who they are in the "Our Mission - Who We Are" section of their web site. Hidden at the top of their home page, in a clever "tab"...

"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

Using the website www.mediamatters.org as the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information, Media Matters posts rapid-response items as well as longer research and analytic reports documenting conservative misinformation throughout the media. Additionally, Media Matters works daily to notify activists, journalists, pundits, and the general public about instances of misinformation, providing them with the resources to rebut false claims and to take direct action against offending media institutions
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So strange that they are a self proclaimed watch dog of conservatives and they only attack Repubs. Fact is, they said they were a progressive group from day one, on their home page, in their introduction. This ain't Fox News, they don't claim to be Fair and Balanced, they are up front.

They other crap you wrote is equally retarded. I thought it was George Soros who funded media matters. (as if it takes a billionaire to set up a stupid web site, lol). Now its Hillary. Wait...George Soros, Hillary Clinton. OMG, it really GEORGE CLINTON behind it all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_...funk_musician) we're on to you George.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: PAGING RIGHT-WINGERS: ANOTHER EXPLANATION NEEDED

my friend lost her apartment [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
FWIW, she does hate america, and I'm proud of her for it [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
So I guess Glenn Beck was right [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
How did he know? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:03 AM
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So, apparently, Glenn Beck has called my neighbors who are losing their homes in the fires "people who hate America". Transcript per mediamatters.org:

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BECK: Schwarzenegger came out over the weekend and he said the Republicans need to run to the center and they need to grab the center. And the headline -- I looked at it, and I went "OK, OK, what is this? What is this? Oh, it's Schwarzenegger. I'm probably going to disagree with it." And then I started reading it, and I absolutely disagreed with it. He said they need to start talking about health care and education. That's not the way to win.

Let's talk about health care and education? That's not the way to win. That's not the way to win on any front. I'm not even talking about -- the least I care about is winning the election. How about winning the war? How about saving our country? And, you know, it made me think. I want to make this very clear. When I say on the air, and I've said it a lot lately, that we need to come together and we need to get back into the center, we're being pushed on to the edges -- I want you to understand, that is not on policies. I don't mean that we come in the center on policies. We come to the center on principles. We come back to the center of the melting pot, that we're all one America, that just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you hate America, and I love America. We all love America. We just disagree on how we should function, what we should do, big government, small government. It doesn't mean you hate America. I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.

There are a few people that hate America. But I don't think the Democrats are those. I think there are those posing as Democrats that are like that. But you don't come into the center. You have to stand up for what you believe in.

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Please provide the appropriate spin in this thread. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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the part of california that is burning so badly is very very heavily republican, and not just Arnold Schwarzeneger republicans. These people are Bush/Reagan/Goldwater republicans. Srs biz right wingers.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:05 AM
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Media matters is notorius for misquoted and quoting out of context to make Repubs look bad.

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Could you provide an example?


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Theoretically media matters is a non partisan group but strangely they only attack Repubs....and occasionally a political enemy of Hillary Clinton.

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Where are you getting this from?

From Media Matters for America's "Who We Are" page:

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Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

Using the website www.mediamatters.org as the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information, Media Matters posts rapid-response items as well as longer research and analytic reports documenting conservative misinformation throughout the media. Additionally, Media Matters works daily to notify activists, journalists, pundits, and the general public about instances of misinformation, providing them with the resources to rebut false claims and to take direct action against offending media institutions.

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Theoretically media matters is a non partisan group...

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False. They self-identify as "progressive" and "monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media."

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...but strangely they only attack Repubs...

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False, unless you identify MSNBC, the New York Times, NPR, and all of the other media outlets listed here as "Repubs." Ditto Alan Colmes and Katie Couric. (I also think using the word "attack" is misleading, but that's subjective.)
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:07 AM
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All right, I'll bite. Anyone who has ever listened to Glenn Beck knows he always complains about the Hollywood crowd; movie stars who live in Malibu. He says that they hate what America is and it should be formed into a socialistic state. Once again, anyone who has ever actually LISTENED to the man would know this.

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Ummm, so it's ok to take joy in the fact that some move stars' homes ill burn down? OK!

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you got it bud.

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Blame the Sierra Club... they are the ones who dont want the dry brush removed.... the stars are likely donating mucho dollars to support those whackies at Sierra, all to put their own homes at risk.

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have you EVER said anything that was true?
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:35 AM
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'Transcript per mediamatters.org'

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Are you saying they altered the transcript? They're not Rush Limbaugh.

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My problem with media matters is that they never include the WHOLE transcript. They snip here and snip there, pasting it together as though everything that comes out of a republicans mouth equates to killing jews in the holocaust.

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Feel free to go straight to the source.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: Agreed....

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'Transcript per mediamatters.org'
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Theoretically media matters is a non partisan group but strangely they only attack Repubs..


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Right, they deviously hide their mission and who they are in the "Our Mission - Who We Are" section of their web site. Hidden at the top of their home page, in a clever "tab"...

"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

Using the website www.mediamatters.org as the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information, Media Matters posts rapid-response items as well as longer research and analytic reports documenting conservative misinformation throughout the media. Additionally, Media Matters works daily to notify activists, journalists, pundits, and the general public about instances of misinformation, providing them with the resources to rebut false claims and to take direct action against offending media institutions
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So strange that they are a self proclaimed watch dog of conservatives and they only attack Repubs. Fact is, they said they were a progressive group from day one, on their home page, in their introduction. This ain't Fox News, they don't claim to be Fair and Balanced, they are up front.

They other crap you wrote is equally retarded. I thought it was George Soros who funded media matters. (as if it takes a billionaire to set up a stupid web site, lol). Now its Hillary. Wait...George Soros, Hillary Clinton. OMG, it really GEORGE CLINTON behind it all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_...funk_musician) we're on to you George.

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No, Soros funds moveon
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:46 AM
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I suspect most of Moveon's money comes from the 4 million members, but maybe Soros started it or is a major contributor I don't know. The internet is why democrats and DNC have more money than their counterparts, and why top Democrat Presidential candidates are raising much more money that Repubs. It all a people powered movement, small individual contributions, Howard Dean was I think the start. You see some of this with the GOP with Ron Paul outraising McCain for example.

Regarding media matters, Drudge, O'Reilly and others spread lies regarding a connection. Google Soros and Media Matters and you'll see. But now its a Hillary organization, as laughable as the allegation that they hide their agenda. Just a pack of lies.

I was wrong, BTW, in my post where I conceded they only attack Repubs, as was pointed out by BDK3clash, Media matters questions pro conservative spin in various sources.

edit, I just looked it up, Soros did start and fund moveon. So you were right. I wasn't wrong though! No, seriously, I think the members of Moveon must give a lot of money, they hit us up on the front page. I don't give, they want like 2 big blinds usually, f that.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:13 AM
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All right, I'll bite. Anyone who has ever listened to Glenn Beck knows he always complains about the Hollywood crowd; movie stars who live in Malibu. He says that they hate what America is and it should be formed into a socialistic state. Once again, anyone who has ever actually LISTENED to the man would know this.

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Ummm, so it's ok to take joy in the fact that some move stars' homes ill burn down? OK!

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you got it bud.

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Blame the Sierra Club... they are the ones who dont want the dry brush removed.... the stars are likely donating mucho dollars to support those whackies at Sierra, all to put their own homes at risk.

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have you EVER said anything that was true?

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Are you saying the Sierra Club is known for being in favor of removing brush and disturbing the habitat of various wildlife, or that the Hollywood crowd does not donate a lot of money to the Sierra Club? Or Both? Please explain how I am wrong all the time, or at least in the post you are referring to.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:34 AM
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Could you provide an example?


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http://mediamatters.blogsome.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America
O'Reilly said that he believes Media Matters took comments he made on his radio program to Juan Williams regarding a dinner with Al Sharpton in Harlem out of context.[27][28] O'Reilly said that the Media Matters piece put together two out of context comments that were initially spoken five minutes apart and presented them as one comment in an effort to mislead readers.[29] In response to the controversy, Williams wrote an editorial for Time noting that in his opinion "the attacks on O'Reilly amounted to an effort to take what he said totally out of context in an attempt to brand him a racist by a liberal group that disagrees with much of his politics."[31]




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Where are you getting this from?


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Actually their tax status is the same as many charities. I normally don't associated charities with political attack groups such as media matters. I confused this with them claiming to be non partisan. The mission statement you cited is congruent with their partisanship against Repubs and enemies of Hillary. Talk radio has player MANY audio clips of Hillary admitting she helped to start media matters...

Can you cite an occurence where Hillary has been attacked by media matters?

I wonder if David Brock is partly insane....
His zeal in attacking his former 'conservative' I think has more to do with his gayness and the conservative position against gay marriage....
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