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Old 10-19-2007, 02:49 AM
Red_Diamond Red_Diamond is offline
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Default Stud Hi (A startling finding)

I was looking over my records tonight in PT. You know the area where you can view your hands in increasing strength order, and the BB's you've made/lost.

I found something interesting in the fullhouse section. Just about everything is in the Green, until we look at the Tens-Full. Suddenly I take a big dip in the red.

Normally, you'd think Tens full would be a monster money-maker. I then took a look at my other stud-accounts I had, and also noticed the same thing, I'm in the red with Tens full. ARggh, I'm not even in the red with deuces full.

I then began to wonder. Is this just a statistical anomaly, or does everyone else suffer some sort of hit in this area? I have a theory to explain this. I suspect when I have three tens, the # of straights out there is so diminished, that when ever I get the ACTION that I think I want with my ten's full, I'm always getting a much higher bias in STRONGER hands (like other full houses/quads) etc. And conversely, there are less made straights that can pay me off for when I actually am ahead.

Or am I just full of it here?
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Stud Hi (A startling finding)

How are you doing with 5s full? Although I guess you see less low straights than high in stud hi?
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Stud Hi (A startling finding)

How big a sample are we talking here? Even if you'd played a ton of hands, I can't imagine you'd gotten Tens full that many times. And if you make a hand that strong and get beaten even just once, it's going to be for a big pot and enough to wipe out what you had profited prior with that hand.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Stud Hi (A startling finding)

The 5s full is in the Green. I guess I am just over-playing the Tens or something. I'll post a couple random ones for review maybe.

Here we go...

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7 Card Stud High ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.50 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (5.50 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (4.75 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (7.75 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___is all-in $2.85
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises

River - (16.18 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___all-in
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (18.18 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $36.35 Main pot $28.55 Side pot #1 $6 | Rake $1.80

Seat 1: [4s 6c Jh 6h Jd 9s Jc]

Seat 2: [Qh Qc Qs 8c 8d Ts 2c] (A Full House, Queens full of Eights)

Hero: [As Ac Tc 6d 3c Td Th]

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Old 10-19-2007, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: Stud Hi (A startling finding)

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7 Card Stud High ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.75 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises

4th Street - (4.25 SB)

Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.13 BB)

Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.13 BB)

Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___raises
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises___calls

River - (15.13 BB)

Seat 7: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___bets___raises
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls

Total pot: (21.13 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $42.25 Main pot $40.15 Rake $2.10

Seat 7: [Qs Qd Qc 3c 3d 8h 3h] (A Full House, Queens full of Threes)

Hero: [Kc Th Tc Kh Ts Ad 9d]

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Old 10-19-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Stud Hi (A startling finding)

Hand one: Serves you right for calling Third and Fourth.

And Fifth.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:36 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Hand one: Serves you right for calling Third and Fourth.

And Fifth.

[/ QUOTE ]

[b]7 Card Stud High ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:56 AM
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Default Re: Stud Hi (A startling finding)

All players areso bad at these limits I can play any hand! Roll-eyes.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:01 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Hand one: Serves you right for calling Third and Fourth.

And Fifth.

[/ QUOTE ]

seriously. Thats what we call sweet justice.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Stud Hi (A startling finding)

What is your sample size? How many hands have you played where you had tens full?
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