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Old 08-03-2007, 02:37 PM
Choparno Choparno is offline
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Default AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

Had villain at 22/15/2.3 and up heaps of $ over 500 hands, yet he still seemed to do fishy things like open limp and cold call 3-bets OOP. Is turn/river standard here against this type of villain, or can we find a fold? Donking the turn seems like an immense show of strength, but I can't put him on a 4 and it seems like a player with these stats would 4-bet AK (I was 3-betting a 45/11 fish).


No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $711.50
BB: $612.00
UTG: $765.75
MP: $395.65
CO: $681.85
Hero (BTN): $704.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $12.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $45.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $39.00, MP folds

Flop: ($105) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $75.00</font>, BB calls $75.00

Turn: ($255) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $200.00</font>, Hero calls $200.00

River: ($655) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $292.00</font>, Hero calls $292.00

Pot Size: $1,239.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:53 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

i would play it the same, but I cant help feeling we shoudl be able to fold somewhere. maybe the turn
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:39 AM
Choparno Choparno is offline
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

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i would play it the same, but I cant help feeling we shoudl be able to fold somewhere. maybe the turn

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Yeah. Against a typical opponent like this I am generally treating top pair like the nuts in a 3-bet pot but I'm trying to find the right exceptions to this. Getting donked big on the turn when it looks like he doesn't want me to check behind is perhaps one of those times. I called river quickly, as I made up my mind on turn that I was committed to the hand - hard to imagine folding river at that point.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

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i would play it the same, but I cant help feeling we shoudl be able to fold somewhere. maybe the turn

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Old 08-04-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

i guess i fold the river... sucks though
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:05 AM
tcorbin16 tcorbin16 is offline
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

u wouldnt fold the river give me a break.
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

u think it can only be ak right?? if u calling the turn pretty much forced to call river with missed flush here...
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

Why aren't we AI on the turn? Folding to a river club??
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Old 08-04-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

"check/call flop, bet turn" is a really strong and obvious line imo.

its impossible to fold the hand once it gets to the river, its only 300 into a 600 pot. the only place where could fold this is the turn, but its very hard when you 3bet preflop.
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: AQs 3-bet pot donked into on turn

I agree with everyone w/ a turn fold. THeres not much we are beating that he is cold calling pre here and then donking this turn like this.
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