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Old 11-27-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: NPL 2.5k @ Venetian, TV Table / Money bubble w/ TT

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AGame i'm pretty sure you are in the minority with that mindset. If I were in OP's spot and looked down at TT, I'd be ecstatic and ready to double up.

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Ok obviously being dealt TT is better than being dealt 72 that was me exaggerating the point that people tend to fold somewhat playable hands after they win big pots to kinda "catch their breath." I know even I am guilty of folding hands I would've otherwise opened with had I not played the hand directly before, and it's not even like it's a bad thing. It all just boils down to the fact that reraising for a 2nd time in a row is like never a bluff which is why I prefer flatting. But as I said, rr/call is ok too, I just don't think it's optimal.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: NPL 2.5k @ Venetian, TV Table / Money bubble w/ TT

1. call to take a flop or induce a squeeze

2. all in
3. 3 bet and call a shove









4. 3 bet and fold to a shove


I think you play well postflop, so I like calling and playing some pokahs.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:32 PM
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if you think theres a big chance someone will squeeze with a junky hand and you are comfortable calling that, just calling is fine, otherwise just push yourself.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: NPL 2.5k @ Venetian, TV Table / Money bubble w/ TT

I think the chance of a light squeeze is very very marginal and if they do they may even 3bet fold squeeze as bad as we know it is on the tv/money bubble I see them being way too tight.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:06 PM
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I think the chance of a light squeeze is very very marginal and if they do they may even 3bet fold squeeze as bad as we know it is on the tv/money bubble I see them being way too tight.

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I agree/toto probably isn't calling a shove with worse and I hate 3 betting 1/3 of my stack and then figuring out what to do on a KJx flop, so I call etc.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:20 PM
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serge the more I think about him he may even fold AK/JJ to a shove from jon in this spot and jon told me he was playing like 60/40 and getting laggier on this bubble. So basically this could become a +EV shove not for relative strength but just how much they fold as well as those behind us only calling with QQ+ or even KK+ fearing they are either fliping or behind with QQ.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: NPL 2.5k @ Venetian, TV Table / Money bubble w/ TT

Toto is not known for making big, or even medium, or even small laydowns. I would shove here. I don't think there's a chance in hell he would fold 99 or 88 or AJ+ here. 3bet/calling will probably get you to the same spot.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:50 PM
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On the TV bubble Toto is opening prob pretty close to ATC here so I might value call. Either that or 3bet t8.5k and snap call a shove.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: NPL 2.5k @ Venetian, TV Table / Money bubble w/ TT

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Toto is not known for making big, or even medium, or even small laydowns. I would shove here. I don't think there's a chance in hell he would fold 99 or 88 or AJ+ here. 3bet/calling will probably get you to the same spot.

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during level 2(50-100) i played a hand with toto, folded to bad button who limps, toto completes SB and i make it 425 in the BB w/ 99, button calls, toto makes it 1500, i tank and shove 6k and both players snap fold

i also had a hand where i raised toto's BB at the final table, bet a 2 tone flop and gave up when the flush draw hit on the turn

i'm pretty sure my image is solid internet player but not too loose/out of line
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: NPL 2.5k @ Venetian, TV Table / Money bubble w/ TT

Btw I think shoving is a lot better than 3 bet/calling on the bubble. Note that I don't know the prizes but why go out of our way to encourage action in TT in a spot where we really don't want action?
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