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Old 11-21-2007, 07:48 PM
gboro gboro is offline
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hand 1 is from the stars 50 rebuy, villain has been opening a lot of pots but not getting too crazy postflop. i popped him once with qq and he called and check/folded the flop.

i asked 3 good players about this hand and got 3 different answers so i thought it would be a good one to post.

hands 2-4 are all early in the full tilt 50 freezeout, no reads.


1) PokerStars Game #13383461356: Tournament #67347697, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/11/21 - 17:32:47 (ET)
Table '67347697 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: mortonator99 (13875 in chips)
Seat 2: JOEYTHEB (41817 in chips)
Seat 3: ukruss (7460 in chips)
Seat 4: GRinDer444 (21765 in chips)
Seat 5: nomoballer (8410 in chips)
Seat 6: Mikael 666 (13491 in chips)
Seat 7: Baakbone (34240 in chips)
Seat 9: gboro780 (22480 in chips)
mortonator99: posts the ante 50
JOEYTHEB: posts the ante 50
ukruss: posts the ante 50
GRinDer444: posts the ante 50
nomoballer: posts the ante 50
Mikael 666: posts the ante 50
Baakbone: posts the ante 50
gboro780: posts the ante 50
GRinDer444: posts small blind 300
nomoballer: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Ah Qd]
Mikael 666: folds
Baakbone: raises 1200 to 1800
gboro780:


2)
Full Tilt Poker Game #4250978861: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 28 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:13:15 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: gboro780 (3,680)
Seat 2: juanrichguy (7,205)
Seat 3: deeman7 (3,260)
Seat 4: redrumxxx (2,440)
Seat 5: 515FahQ515 (5,495)
Seat 6: iceman810 (1,335)
Seat 7: Cre8ive (2,675)
Seat 8: Big Plick (1,303)
Seat 9: mikey11773 (3,475)
deeman7 posts the small blind of 25
redrumxxx posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Kh Ac]
515FahQ515 calls 50
iceman810 raises to 250
Cre8ive has 15 seconds left to act
Cre8ive calls 250
Big Plick folds
mikey11773 folds
gboro780:


3) Full Tilt Poker Game #4250748808: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 28 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:48:28 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: gboro780 (2,025)
Seat 2: the-xmen12 (2,260)
Seat 3: deeman7 (1,970)
Seat 4: redrumxxx (1,910)
Seat 5: 515FahQ515 (3,505)
Seat 6: iceman810 (1,660)
Seat 7: Cre8ive (3,540)
Seat 8: Bluf4fun (2,335)
Seat 9: HoodyHooTay (2,045)
redrumxxx posts the small blind of 15
515FahQ515 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Tc Th]
iceman810 folds
Cre8ive has 15 seconds left to act
Cre8ive folds
Bluf4fun folds
HoodyHooTay folds
gboro780 raises to 90
the-xmen12 folds
deeman7 folds
redrumxxx calls 75
515FahQ515 folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 4s 7d]
redrumxxx checks
gboro780 bets 140
redrumxxx raises to 630
gboro780:


4) Full Tilt Poker Game #4251952857: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 26 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:54:55 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: NutZonLoCk (6,775)
Seat 2: aaajack (7,257)
Seat 3: bfunkadunk (19,090)
Seat 4: gboro780 (15,594)
Seat 5: S_Dot111 (11,551)
Seat 7: Padlec87 (4,860)
Seat 8: isejbin (8,817)
Seat 9: sd_hang_10 (13,118)
NutZonLoCk antes 25
aaajack antes 25
bfunkadunk antes 25
gboro780 antes 25
S_Dot111 antes 25
Padlec87 antes 25
isejbin antes 25
sd_hang_10 antes 25
aaajack posts the small blind of 120
bfunkadunk posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Jc Qc]
bfunkadunk has been disconnected
bfunkadunk has reconnected
gboro780 raises to 640
S_Dot111 folds
Padlec87 folds
isejbin folds
sd_hang_10 folds
NutZonLoCk folds
ItzGoTime sits down
ItzGoTime adds 3,652
aaajack folds
bfunkadunk calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jd Kh]
bfunkadunk has 15 seconds left to act
bfunkadunk checks
gboro780 checks
*** TURN *** [Ks Jd Kh] [9s]
bfunkadunk bets 240
gboro780 calls 240
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jd Kh 9s] [4d]
bfunkadunk has 15 seconds left to act
bfunkadunk bets 480
gboro780 has 15 seconds left to act
gboro780 raises to 1,460
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

1. call
2. raise 1050
3. allin
4. i probably just call the river; i think you could get JT to fold to the raise, but AJ wont.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

[ QUOTE ]
1. call
2. raise 1050
3. allin
4. i probably just call the river; i think you could get JT to fold to the raise, but AJ wont.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree with all, you aren't gonna get called by a whole lot on the river of #4 that you beat, of course everything that beats you is calling.

#1 I think anything but calling is pretty bad personally

#2 gotta re-raise

#3 This is a spot where if you're behind oh well, but you have to get the chips in now if you're ahead so shove because turns can bring all sorts of bad things
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

1)hand one u should fold preflop. too many players to act behind u and do a squeeze
2)probably just call as you'll have position. squeeze isn't bad here either but I don't know how I'd react to a rejam from original raiser so calling seems like best option
3)I can't see folding here. This guy called in small blind and while it's conceivable he did so w/ something like a,4 or 4,5s most times he has a 7 here or a pocket pair lower than you. If he had a 4, he'd be more likely to slow play and allow u to catch up. i'd rejam here and be happy about it.
4)fold preflop. I don't understand ur river raise at all. was that for value? definitely just call. Ur only beating a pair of nines here and he would probably fold it to ur raise there.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

ur not worried about rejam w/ hand 2? would u call it?
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

1 flat
2 allin
3 allin
4 call
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

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ur not worried about rejam w/ hand 2? would u call it?

[/ QUOTE ]

if any of the people that already put money into the pot jam i obv call. if someone cold 4 bet jams after all this action, i guess i could consider folding ... but still probably woudlnt.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

eyes bleeding from multiple unconverted hands.

www.legopoker.com has a hand history converter
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

1. Call
2. Call
3. Shove
4. Is river for value?
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: thoughts on these hands

hand 4 is for value. if you check the bet sizing i made it 640 preflop and by the river he's only betting 480. doesn't it seem like he would bet more with Kx or QT? i was pretty sure he had a jack or 9 and if i can successfully narrow him down to that then i'm only behind one hand with JQ. is this a reach?
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