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Old 08-08-2007, 08:58 PM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

Is this better? I usually call or RR in this spot. No read on villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($35.30)
UTG ($9)
UTG+1 ($54.75)
Hero ($76.45)
MP2 ($102.60)
CO ($16.65)
Button ($15.55)
SB ($53.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $2, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $13</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $24.75
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $17.25, won by BB.</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $7.50, returned to BB.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. BB wins $24.75. </font>
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:17 PM
AFCBeer AFCBeer is offline
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

This is a tough one. Villain could easily be doing this with 77-99. He could even be taking the view that this flop missed your "obvious" AK. The trouble is he is suggesting that you have to play a big pot. Do you really want to pay 70BB to find out whether your TT is good here? You are not yet committed so I'd be inclined to let this go against an unknown but I'd be keeping an eye on the BB for the future to try to get a feel for what hands he will do this with.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

all in, not close
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

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all in, not close

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nah, I found a better spot after I had a read on villain I think. He stacked off after limping with K2 and turned out to be an 88.5/5/.... lag tard. I owned him for 3 smaller pots before this one came up.... Maybe I could of skinned him earlier but I feel better about laying that hand down.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">CO ($49.15)</font>
Button ($17.55)
SB ($49)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($87.20)</font>
UTG ($102.85)
MP1 ($29.50)
MP2 ($52.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button folds, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, CO calls $1.50.

Turn: ($4.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, CO calls $4.50.

River: ($13.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $80.7</font>, CO calls $17.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $136.60
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $98.55, between CO and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by Hero ($98.55).</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $38.05, returned to Hero.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Th Qc (two pair, queens and tens).
CO has Td 3s (two pair, tens and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $136.60. </font>
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

How can you fold this?!
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

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How can you fold this?!

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Well, I hadn't seen the guy play, JJ,QQ are both reasonable calling hands from BB and I just had a bad feeling about his reraise. Only thing I'm beating is 88 99 and an underpair to the board or something like 7x. I'm still convinced he had me on that hand.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

the only pair that beats you is JJ and maybe QQ. He's bluffing sometimes, and a lot of the time he has 77 88 99. He can also have a str8 draw, or a pair and a str8 draw.

I guess i was wrong about it being not close, but i am almost certain you are getting the right equity to play for stacks here.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

by the way i hope everyone realizes that villain only has a 35 stack
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

U should shove after his raise.
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:02 PM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: So, TT is the only pp I\'m losing money with

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U should shove after his raise.

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why? What's your range of hands you put villain on? He's pretty much pot committed himself with that raise so he has something he wants to show down in my opinion. I guess I should pokerstove it. He turned out to be a total donk but, this was like my 2nd or 3rd hand at the table.

I really respect the opinion of everyone that has replied. Maybe my TT's have just been snake bit for the past 35,000 hands but I've lost like 5 bi's with them and I feel like I need to quit playing them so aggressively.
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