55 UTG

[Poopy_Pants]

betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

[0evg0]

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betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

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as bad as betgo is, you're 5 million times more terrible based on your first post in this thread.

i don't mean that to be demeaning, everyone has to start somewhere.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...mp;Board=tourn

this is probably a better place for you to start.

[Poopy_Pants]

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betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

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as bad as betgo is, you're 5 million times more terrible based on your first post in this thread.

i don't mean that to be demeaning, everyone has to start somewhere.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...mp;Board=tourn

this is probably a better place for you to start.

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u still playing 50nl evg? your too funny. i played daily with betgo on stars. hu 4 rolz evg?

[Hattifnatt]

depends on table/avg stack/how near bubble or itm etc. obv but usully a fold in my book.

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betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

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as bad as betgo is, you're 5 million times more terrible based on your first post in this thread.

i don't mean that to be demeaning, everyone has to start somewhere.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...mp;Board=tourn

this is probably a better place for you to start.

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u still playing 50nl evg? your too funny. i played daily with betgo on stars. hu 4 rolz evg?

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no, i haven't played 50nl since i first learned how to play 6-max.

and i don't really care if you play with betgo daily, everyone on this forum does.

if this is a dick-waving contest though, i'll bow out because i'm sure i'm no good compared to someone who knows "how many orbitals" betgo has left (???)

[ZeroPointMachine]

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I don't think any of you saying fold can come up with any sort of logic to justify that decision. "Standard" does not count as logic.

The only logic posted so far is that you get to see another orbital. Yes, another orbital during which you bleed off 2200 chips, possibly move up another level, and are only 32% to be dealt a PP better than 55.

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ok, so roughly, if everyone is calling TT+AK (i'm not saying this is true, but just as an example of a very tight table - then we'd be getting called 27.5% and winning blinds 72.5%. of the 27.5% we're called our equity is 31.3%.

Sooo 11.2k stack 2200 in the pot,

(.725 * 2200) + [.275*(24600*.313 - 11200)]
(1650) + [.275 * -3500]
1650 - 962.5
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+687.5 chips/+.3M

I think thats the most optimistic we can be right?

I'm not positive that a fold is right - but it doesnt seem like a good spot to me - but i guess if it was guaranteed to be +.3M i'd shove, but i think its more of a best case scenario.

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Even in this most optimistic case the possibility of being called in more than one place is enough to make this a pretty clear fold.