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Old 04-14-2006, 10:02 AM
Nomar Nomar is offline
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Default am I really supposed to value bet here ??

5 handed 50-100

button open limps sb completes, i check k9o in BB

flop KQ7 two hearts, checked to button he bets, sb folds I raise

turn 3 hearts, I bet he calls

river 4 hearts, I _________
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Old 04-14-2006, 10:04 AM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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Default Re: am I really supposed to value bet here ??

this one is read dependent... but in most cases yes.... there are certainly some opponents who will bet if checked to here, so inducing a bluff may be better vs these types of opponents
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Old 04-14-2006, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: am I really supposed to value bet here ??

he could have, and will call down with, any pair or possibly A high
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Old 04-14-2006, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: am I really supposed to value bet here ??

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he could have, and will call down with, any pair or possibly A high

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you are aware the board is :

KQ734 with FOUR hearts correcT?

Ahigh is not calling here ever. small pairs may even fold and possibly others, its a tricky spot since the raise may come from a worse hand. if the opponent is very good and can raise enough as a bluff (but not so much as to be a mistake), then checking to let him bluff or check behind is better than bet/calling

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Old 04-14-2006, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: am I really supposed to value bet here ??

i would check and call sometimes, and sometimes i would bet/fold. depends on if the player is crazy or not (obv)
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: am I really supposed to value bet here ??

no i didn't realize there were 4 hearts. i don't know why people don't use the [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. when i see no specific suits i assume they are unimportant (and yes i see now that he wrote the words out but still)

but that reminds me of a hand. i tried to bluff a decent player the other day and he called me with A high on a 4 flush board so never say never
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: am I really supposed to value bet here ??

ok let's try again.

i would put him on a crappier K or a Q. i don't think he has nothing unless that nothing was A high on the flop, the nut flush draw on the turn, and now the nuts. if we check he probably won't bet a crappier K or a Q. he might check a Q. if we check it looks like a fold is correct but not by a lot. however, i do see some value in a bet. again, i put him on a pair of some sort, AND he open limped on the btn, so it's less likely he'll need to try a desperation bluff. so i'd bet
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:26 PM
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I would check call almost always.
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