JTs with a gutshot/flush draw facing big reraise...

[wems]

Villian is a 21/18/inf
im not sure what he coul dhave? would he make this play with like 56s? or two pair atleast? and do any of you come over the top in this situation? (which i think is a bad play?)
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $143.85
SB: $87.30
BB: $78.70
UTG: $262.25
MP: $142.40
CO: $33

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $25</font>, Hero folds

Results: $24.50 Pot ($1.20 Rake)
UTG mucked and WON $23.30 (+$11.80 NET)

[thac]

Wow, what? You have position, you have a gutshot + fd and MAYBE overs.. I don't think I fold here ever. You're 150 bb deep, you can flat here if you want, you can raise here if you want, but folding is ridiculous and out of the question IMO.

Even against a set, you have 11 outs at the least (3s can make him a boat), and if he has 2 pair, you have outs to get a higher 2 pair.

Just don't fold. I'd call because we have over a buyin behind and I don't want him to shove over a 3-bet.

[RAHZero]

In position I call getting over 2:1 and shove the turn if I hit (or bet if he checks). OOP I'd probably 3-bet AI. Folding here is awful.

[FlushTheToilet]

WTF does a 21/18 limp/call utg anyway? Extra-slowplayed AA/KK?

[YouCantEscape]

I will never fold here.
With 100bb stacks i like to 3bet all in here. With the given stacksizes i would probably call and reevaluate on turn and river. I actually love to get those hands in on the flop, but i want to be the one who shoves and not the one who calls the shove (because of folding equity). And if you want to get it in on the flop here you have to massively overbet the potsize. That will reduce your equity against his calling range a lot as he will only call hands like sets or 2pairs.

But i disagree with your line. A fold is way too weak here.

[wems]

thats what i was thinking but ive made some very marginal plays getting it AI lately, and I wanted some input on that hand.... thx

[TwistedEcho]

wooooooooooow open shoving the flop &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; folding. Pretty much any line that doesnt involve pressing the fold button would be an improvement to this hand

[garcia1000]

I think that the flop was played sub-optimally. The reason is that you have a strong draw. You could consider calling or raising the flop.