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Old 10-02-2007, 08:44 PM
crunchi crunchi is offline
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Thoughts on turn play? what do you do on river?

Villain was 40/20 over a tiny sample.
This is an old hand so i cant remember what my thought process was on the turn. I think i checked with the intention of c/r when he bets all his draws.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $64.45
BB: $25.05
UTG: $51.00
CO: $81.75
BTN: $50.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($9) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($9) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ??
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:47 PM
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i'd have bet the turn, cause i hate giving free cards.

As played i think i'd bet 6'ish and fold to a raise?
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: AT

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i'd have bet the turn, cause i hate giving free cards.

As played i think i'd bet 6'ish and fold to a raise?

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Betting turn is probably standard but we never get his stack when he has a draw.

What do you expect your $6 river bet to get called by that we beat?
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: AT

Yeah, bet the turn about 7-8, club draws are huge part of his range, as are weaker tens that will call down, b/f this river for a little over half the pot.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 50nl: AT

Bet the turn.

As played bet/fold river.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:29 PM
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Guys, b/f river, wtf? I do not get this at all. Are you saying that he is more likely to have a T AND call a bet with it than show up with a flush or straight here?
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:50 PM
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If he raises, he almost certainly has you beat, but you can get value from weaker tens, aces that peeled the flop light, pocket pairs, A4, A2, if he is that bad, etc.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:32 AM
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i like the turn check. Bet river and get some more value against his T
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: 50nl: AT

i bet the turn and bet fold the river for $6, as lego stated.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:21 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
i'd have bet the turn, cause i hate giving free cards.

As played i think i'd bet 6'ish and fold to a raise?

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Betting turn is probably standard but we never get his stack when he has a draw.

What do you expect your $6 river bet to get called by that we beat?

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Firstly we don't really 'want' his stack. We're betting to protect our hand, also for value, but mainly to protect. Chances are you are never going to get his stack in this hand, well from something that doesn't beat you at least.

We expect to get value from Ax, A with 2nd pair, non believing KT etc.

Secondly the bet on the river makes us less susceptible to bluffs after showing weakness on the turn.

Ideal line - Bet turn, bet river.
As played bet fold $6 on river.
In my opinion.
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