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#11
10-30-2007, 11:07 PM
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Re: Jacks vs gp333
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why can't he have 2 pair [/ QUOTE ] name some 2 pair hands that take his pf, flop, and turn lines [ QUOTE ] a straight [/ QUOTE ] using exactly which cards that also take this pf, flop, and turn line [ QUOTE ] or 555 [/ QUOTE ] why would he bet turn with 55? that's terrible. [ QUOTE ] also the fact that it's an overbet has to factor in somewhere; getting worse than 2-1. [/ QUOTE ] this is 100000% wrong 
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#13
10-30-2007, 11:09 PM
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Re: Jacks vs gp333
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I don't think that c/fing turn is brutal. [/ QUOTE ] i think it is if he's floating a ton as described in OP. ok maybe its not "brutal" but I really dislike c/f.
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#14
10-30-2007, 11:10 PM
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Re: Jacks vs gp333
OP's read is remarkably good:
No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $5/$10 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $2057 UTG+1: $224.75 CO: $1124.57 Button: $2037 SB: $2916.40 Hero: $4515 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $35</font>, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $175</font>, CO folds, Button calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($390, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $295</font>, Button calls. Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($980, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $520</font>, Hero calls. River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2020, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $1047</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $4114 Button Shows Ad Qh Hero Shows 8h 8c Button is gp obv. gp has a flush or you have him beat here. he probably raises with a flush draw. calling isn't terrible, it'll give you a good image at least
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#17
10-30-2007, 11:16 PM
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Re: Jacks vs gp333
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He could easily have 76 here also. [/ QUOTE ] my bad, thought the flop had the 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] yeah, if he has 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6x or 7x6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] bet/calling turn is fine and so ya, there's 2 more hands in his range that beat you. so far we've got flush, 7d6x, 7x6d beating you, and roughly 50000 other combos that you beat -- give or take like a thou
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#18
10-30-2007, 11:18 PM
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Re: Jacks vs gp333
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OP's read is remarkably good: No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $5/$10 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $2057 UTG+1: $224.75 CO: $1124.57 Button: $2037 SB: $2916.40 Hero: $4515 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $35</font>, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $175</font>, CO folds, Button calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($390, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $295</font>, Button calls. Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($980, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $520</font>, Hero calls. River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2020, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $1047</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $4114 Button Shows Ad Qh Hero Shows 8h 8c [/ QUOTE ] that line is terrible if he knew you weren't a random it'd be v v good if he had a J tho :/
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#20
10-31-2007, 12:05 AM
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Re: Jacks vs gp333
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gp and I battle a little bit [/ QUOTE ] still not understanding how his play can be good. does he expect you to c/c turn, c/f river? is he valuetowning AT? that's all there is.
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