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Old 09-30-2007, 06:20 PM
EmpireMaker2 EmpireMaker2 is offline
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Default A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

Derek is one of the best regulars imo, he's kinda a more aggro tag. Is this an easy muck like I thought? His hand range here is AK, AA, 22, 1010 are the only hands that beat me. There is also a fish in the hand and I think he would be bluffing or beating his semi bluffs less becuase of this on the flop. Call, Push, or fold?


PokerStars Game #12363238592: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/09/30 - 18:06:19 (ET)
Table 'Sharatan' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mikequell ($885.50 in chips)
Seat 2: EmpireMaker2 ($1274 in chips)
Seat 3: DerekJC9954 ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: ryanbluf ($2611.05 in chips)
Seat 5: non5ense ($980 in chips)
Seat 6: gmetric ($1010 in chips)
gmetric: posts small blind $5
mikequell: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EmpireMaker2 [Qh Ks]
EmpireMaker2: raises $20 to $30
DerekJC9954: calls $30
ryanbluf: folds
non5ense: folds
gmetric: folds
mikequell: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [2c Kh Tc]
mikequell: checks
EmpireMaker2: bets $70
DerekJC9954: raises $100 to $170
mikequell: folds
EmpireMaker2: calls $100
*** TURN *** [2c Kh Tc] [2h]
EmpireMaker2: checks
DerekJC9954: bets $300
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:23 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

shove AA, fold AK/KQ, rinse, repeat
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

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shove AA, fold AK/KQ, rinse, repeat

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I dont see how AA is different than AK here.....I kinda agree with fold KQ shove AA and AK.
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

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shove AA, fold AK/KQ, rinse, repeat

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I dont see how AA is different than AK here.....I kinda agree with fold KQ shove AA and AK.

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Isn't KTs in Dereks range?
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

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shove AA, fold AK/KQ, rinse, repeat

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I dont see how AA is different than AK here.....I kinda agree with fold KQ shove AA and AK.

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Isn't KTs in Dereks range?

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Old 09-30-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

I think KTs is pretty reasonable for Derek.

I would probably fold this.
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

i believe that KTs is in dereks range, which is why i put AA as a shove and AK as a close/fold

anyhow, the turn is a terrible spot to bluff, and once you call the flop, he HAS to think you're stacking off
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

ae jones naild it
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

you probably shoudl just fold the flop
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: A meh spot vs DerekJC on the turn 5-10

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Yeah I think this is kind of player dependent... I think the % at which a player fires turn after raising a draw on the flop and being called probably varies alot.. but calling with intentions of hoping they slow down on the turn if you are ahead is sort of weak.. unless you balance it well with alot of turn crai's... so essentially I've nothing to contribute to this thread..
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