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Old 09-28-2007, 05:31 PM
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RoundTower - Here they are, as promised.

Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
flush 117568/135806
straight or royal flush 3826/3826
flush+st.+roy. 121394/139632= 0.869
564105 wins, 20123 ties
four blanks was 415772 wins, 20123 ties.

Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
flush 119550/136490
straight or royal flush 3343/3343
flush+st.+roy. 122893/139833= 0.879
564804 wins, 20214 ties
four blanks was 414982 wins, 20214 ties.

Looks like the second hand (Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) is better overall by about a percentage point (87.9% to 86.9%). It’s all kind of silly in terms of making money but that's not all there is to life, at least for me.

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Old 09-28-2007, 07:42 PM
Big Dave D Big Dave D is offline
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Buzz,

I don't want to say that random hand simulations are useless...because they are not...but in terms of hand playability, especially in a game like PLO, they are a poor guide. For example, the ds med rundowns do so well in the game, because when the pot is big you (ideally) are either against an insane overplayed AA type; in ok shape vs a set/two pair; crushing a similar hand with your freerolls. You are *not* normally stacking vs another made flush, or being rivered for a one pair kind of hand that in reality your foe would not see, which are some of the ways the random hand showdown wins.

This is why hand dbs are so valuable, and why although I often disagree with Pete so much in "play of hands" scenarios here I often think he is posting mischeaviously, I have the utmost respect for him when it comes to starting hand analysis.

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Old 09-28-2007, 08:46 PM
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Hi Big Dave. What you write makes good sense. Thank you. Much appreciated.

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