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Old 09-05-2007, 06:03 PM
LearnedfromTV LearnedfromTV is offline
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Default Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

I hate to say no reads, but... no reads. This guy has been here three orbits, I have no prior hands with him, all I can tell so far is he isn't crazy. But the turn decision is still interesting versus a vanilla competent opponent b/c there are a few different considerations to balance. Note that he is BB; he didn't limp.

I almost never bet without knowing my response to a raise; this time I wasn't expecting it, and I was like "sweet, he raised... umm, wait, what do I do?"

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($40)
Hero ($194)
BB ($226.15)
UTG ($227.25)
MP ($78.45)
CO ($229.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6, MP folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($20) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $48</font>,
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:07 PM
Bramsterdam Bramsterdam is offline
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

Why would you do anyting else but 3bet/shove?
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

I think there are a few reasons to consider calling. I guess I'll see if anyone else agrees. One good poster I im'd it to said call as a first reaction...
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

I call. Donk a river club, c/c all others.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

I am kinda torn between calling and checkraising all rivers and reraising now. Probably just go for it and assume he will not fold 2 pair.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

This is def a call. Smaller two pair doesn't make sense, so he's either bluffing/semibluffing or he has us beat.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

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This is def a call. Smaller two pair doesn't make sense, so he's either bluffing/semibluffing or he has us beat.

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He's big blind.
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

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This is def a call. Smaller two pair doesn't make sense, so he's either bluffing/semibluffing or he has us beat.

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if villain overvalues hands it does make sense
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

POKERSTARS GAME #11885192685: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/09/05 - 11:18:46 (ET)
Table 'Thalia III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: hray ($80 in chips)
Seat 3: gvpoker408 ($261 in chips)
Seat 4: josefterezia ($120.20 in chips)
Seat 5: zia petunia ($96.95 in chips)
Seat 6: PrnceImrahil ($327.05 in chips)
PrnceImrahil: posts small blind $1
hray: posts big blind $2
quotas: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PrnceImrahil [Kc 9d]
gvpoker408: folds
josefterezia: calls $2
zia petunia: calls $2
PrnceImrahil: calls $1
hray: checks
*** FLOP *** [9h 6c 2d]
PrnceImrahil: bets $6
hray: folds
josefterezia: calls $6
zia petunia: folds
*** TURN *** [9h 6c 2d] [Ks]
PrnceImrahil: bets $14
josefterezia: raises $14 to $28
PrnceImrahil: raises $94 to $122
josefterezia: calls $84.20 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [9h 6c 2d Ks] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PrnceImrahil: shows [Kc 9d] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
josefterezia: mucks hand
PrnceImrahil collected $242.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $244.40 | Rake $2
Board [9h 6c 2d Ks Js]
Seat 1: hray (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: gvpoker408 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: josefterezia mucked [Ad 6s]
Seat 5: zia petunia (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: PrnceImrahil (small blind) showed [Kc 9d] and won ($242.40) with two pair, Kings and Nines
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Old 09-05-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Fun Turn Spot: Limped pot, Top Two + FD

Im shoving here.
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