A Sad Anniversary

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lol @ peaceful assembly.

When you loot and burn down buildings, harm civilians and injure peacekeeping national guardsmen, these things tend to happen.

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Let's try Wiki for a slightly more in-depth review of the events, shall we?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

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Since when is wiki a source of accurate in-depth reporting?

[pvn]

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lol @ peaceful assembly.

When you loot and burn down buildings, harm civilians and injure peacekeeping national guardsmen, these things tend to happen.

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Let's try Wiki for a slightly more in-depth review of the events, shall we?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

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Since when is wiki a source of accurate in-depth reporting?

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It's a lot more in-depth than either the OP or your contributions.

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Read the post again. William Knox Schroeder was in the ROTC, he was walking to class when he got it in the back.
Likewise, Sandra Lee Scheuer, an honors student, was also walking to class. Notice the distances. The majority of the students killed or injured where well over the length of a football field away when shot, too far away to injure "Peacekeeping" National Guardsmen.

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I don't believe that the troops don't have their own 'moral compass'. During this dark period in the history of our great Nation, I think many of the troops that paid the ultimate price for freedom rolled in their graves. A very sad incident for a freedom-loving Nation.

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Read the post again. William Knox Schroeder was in the ROTC, he was walking to class when he got it in the back.
Likewise, Sandra Lee Scheuer, an honors student, was also walking to class. Notice the distances. The majority of the students killed or injured where well over the length of a football field away when shot, too far away to injure "Peacekeeping" National Guardsmen.

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I've read about the incident, but the OP doesn't properly frame the circumstances. This was far from peaceful assembly. There had been widespread rioting and looting previous days. Many national guardsmen had had rocks and other projectiles thrown at them both on the day and on previous days, and over a dozen had been injured. Citizens were quite literally afraid for their lives after the looting and violence by these students, as were many national guardsmen it seems, who lacked any riot protection gear. They'd had projectiles thrown at them that very day by the same crowd.

The shooting itself doesn't make any sense. The circumstances you describe are accurate, and it makes no sense at all that they would fire from a distance. My best guess is that heard a shot, panicked, and shot back. The stories report the National guardsmen being very afraid for their lives at the time. I guess a deliberate indiscriminate shooting isn't out of the question. But if it wasn't deliberate, I daresay the students brought such an accident upon themselves, and are responsible for the innocent bystanders that got killed.

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Sorry, but people in that time had not yet been conditioned with the panic/fear/oh-my-god-think-of-the-children propaganda.

[Copernicus]

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Sorry, but people in that time had not yet been conditioned with the panic/fear/oh-my-god-think-of-the-children propaganda.



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huh?

[NCAces]

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lol @ peaceful assembly.

When you loot and burn down buildings, harm civilians and injure peacekeeping national guardsmen, these things tend to happen.

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Let's try Wiki for a slightly more in-depth review of the events, shall we?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

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You mean like:

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Trouble erupted at around midnight when intoxicated bikers left a bar and began throwing beer bottles at cars and breaking downtown store fronts. In the process they broke a bank window which set off an alarm. The news spread quickly and it resulted in several bars closing early to avoid trouble. Before long more people had joined the vandalism and looting, while others remained bystanders.

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When the National Guard arrived in town that evening, a large demonstration was already under way and the campus Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) building (which had been boarded up and scheduled for demolition) was burning; no one was hurt in the fire and the arsonists were never caught. More than a thousand protesters surrounded the building and cheered the building's burning. While attempting to extinguish the fire, several Kent firemen and police officers were hit with rocks and other objects by those standing near the fire.

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The protesters pelted the Jeep with rocks, forcing it to retreat. One Guardsman was injured in the attack.

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Just before noon, the Guard returned and again ordered the crowd to disperse. When they refused, the Guard used tear gas. Because of wind, the tear gas had little effect in dispersing the crowd, and some began a second rock attack with chants of "Pigs off campus!" The students also utilized the tear gas canisters and threw them back at the National Guardsmen. The only protection the soldiers had were their steel helmets. They had no body armor or face shields, although they had put on gas masks upon first using tear gas.

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Eight of the guardsmen were indicted by a grand jury. The guardsmen claimed to have fired in self-defense, which was generally accepted by the criminal justice system. In 1974 District Judge Frank Battisti dismissed charges against all eight on the basis that the prosecution's case was too weak to warrant a trial.

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Thanks for the link.

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When you loot and burn down buildings, harm civilians and injure peacekeeping national guardsmen, these things tend to happen.

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I call BS - quit being an apologist for murder.

[pokerbobo]

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When you loot and burn down buildings, harm civilians and injure peacekeeping national guardsmen, these things tend to happen.

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I call BS - quit being an apologist for murder.

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What if the burning building is your house, and the harmed civilians are you and your family?...might have a different opinion then eh?