10/25 HU vs CrYinG on UB

[EC10]

haven't played him before. i know he's a reg cuz i often see him sitting at multiple 10-25 and 5-10 tables but other than that no read.

so far in the match he has been pretty passive and i think this is his first time clicking the pot button post flop over like 25-30 hands. example hand of his passiveness: he limps 77 (100 bb effective), flat calls a raise, calls on a 9-6-4 board, calls 5 turn, checks behind 2 river. that's really all i have to go off so far.

Hand #45623006-7715 at PhilHellmuth2 (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 11/Sep/07 12:30:50

CrYInG is at seat 0 with $2429.50.
Hero is at seat 1 with $3595.75.
The button is at seat 0.

CrYInG posts the small blind of $10.
Hero posts the big blind of $25.

CrYInG: -- --
Hero: Ts Ad

Pre-flop:

CrYInG raises to $50. Hero calls.

Flop (board: As 5h 3s):

Hero checks. CrYInG bets $50. Hero
calls.

Turn (board: As 5h 3s Ah):

Hero bets $145. CrYInG raises to $635.

[TheWorstPlayer]

why would you bet the turn if not to get raised? so that he can just call you down with a worse hand? easy game...

[EC10]

ok say we call, are we check calling AI on all rivers?

[Heir_Aparent]

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ok say we call, are we check calling AI on all rivers?

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yes, but as was said, don't bet out here if your not OK with him raising and possibly felting it (given your description of the player/match)

at this point i prob just check turn to him almost always

[stephenNUTS]

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why would you bet the turn if not to get raised? so that he can just call you down with a worse hand? easy game...

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[king_of_drafts]

I think shove > call since you might play a draw like this.

[Heir_Aparent]

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I think shove > call since you might play a draw like this.

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the latter being true, why does it make a shove better? will he raise worse aces on the turn to hero's donkout? seems doubtful.

just seems like if we push here he's obviously folding his bluff hands and calling boats, and aj-ak. dont see the value in it

[king_of_drafts]

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I think shove > call since you might play a draw like this.

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the latter being true, why does it make a shove better? will he raise worse aces on the turn to hero's donkout? seems doubtful.

just seems like if we push here he's obviously folding his bluff hands and calling boats, and aj-ak. dont see the value in it

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I sort of agree with you but folding sucks and just calling is awkward as hell (what do you do from there, c/f every river?). I personally hate the turn lead, I was just saying what I think is the best line from there.

[AZK]

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I think shove > call since you might play a draw like this.

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if you play a draw like this kill yourself

[Ship Ship McGipp]

call and check call the river, it's trips hu, he can have a worse ace, you can make your hand look like 99, he can turn pr+sd into a bluff to get rid of TT/99 on the river, your hand is near the top of your range, you have three of a kind, it's hu, you have trips, hu, three of a kind, heads up with three of the same card, a chance to make top boat on the end, i would put da monies in da pawt